wow The Helm of Domination's True Purpose: Shadowlands Collector's Edition Unboxing

[Starym 3,800]

 

As the Shadowlands Collector's editions have begun arriving to some players, we have a full unboxing video from Broxh, as he goes through all the components of the package, focusing on the amazing art book in particular. As he was going through the whole thing, many parts of the text were very difficult to read, however a few particularly interesting ones were clear enough.
Obviously potential spoilers ahead.

First and foremost a very short blurb seems to give us insight into the true purpose of the Helm of Domination, as it was written before it was shattered, seemingly by the Jailer himself or someone close to him:

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The veil between realms wanes. The Helm of Domination was created to be our way forward. Instead, the one seared by the flames of life uses it to keep us at bay.

It was never quite clear why the sky above Icecrown exploded in relation to the Helm and this somewhat explains it, as the Helm was always meant to be a way for the Jailer to come to our world (whether to Azeroth in particular or just the material realm itself is unclear), but Bolvar (and presumably Arthas and Ner'zhul as well) were preventing that from happening. And so the Jailer made a deal with Sylvanas, gave her power (presumably needing all that death from Battle for Azeroth to be able to give her enough) so she could go and take out Bolvar and open the way. Whether Arthas and Ner'zhul were also a problem for the Jailer is unclear, as his plans perhaps weren't quite ready to execute during their stay as Lich King.

We already know that both the Helm and Frostmourne came to Azeroth via Dreadlord intervention, that they originally came from the Maw/the mysterious Runecarver, and we've also already talked about the Nathrezim's greater involvement with all the main plots of Warcraft here.

There's plenty more in the unboxing, with some really awesome art (as has become customary with WoW and the amazing art team), a mention of Sylvanas Val'kyrs and how she got them from the Jailer, and we get to see Bolvar at the beginning and end of the book, as we already know he will be our guide into the Shadowlands.

Source.

[Borgoff33 101]

not shocked at all about any of this since the "story"/"lore" team keep retconing everything so while the CE looks great all the lore stuff is really w/e atp

Edited October 10, 2020 by Borgoff33

[Aernath 173]

1 hour ago, Borgoff33 said:

not shocked at all about any of this since the "story"/"lore" team keep retconing everything so while the CE looks great all the lore stuff is really w/e atp

We don't know if this is a "retcon" though, considering what's been told in Chronicle Vol.3 all we knew was Nathrezim helped to craft both Helm of Domination and Frostmourne in the Shadowlands. More likely this can be seen as a hidden and previously unrevealed information about how and why that has happened. 

Especially after "Enemy Infiltration" has been revealed this becomes even more proof that Nathrezim were indeed behind all this and they were actually agents of the Death in the first place, just acting like members of the Legion.

[Grumar 188]

1 minute ago, Aernath said:

We don't know if this is a "retcon" though, considering what's been told in Chronicle Vol.3 all we knew was Nathrezim helped to craft both Helm of Domination and Frostmourne in the Shadowlands. More likely this can be seen as a hidden and previously unrevealed information about how and why that has happened. 

Especially after "Enemy Infiltration" has been revealed this becomes even more proof that Nathrezim were indeed behind all this and they were actually agents of the Death in the first place, just acting like members of the Legion.

this only works if you assume this was previously hidden information, we both know it wasn't they had no idea about a jailor or anything back during wrath or especially frozen throne. how do you know this? they literally have retcons with in the same expansion, the novella that launch with BfA collectors is already out dated by the retcons made in the SAME expansion. it's just sad at this point

[Teufel 331]

8 hours ago, Grumar said:

this only works if you assume this was previously hidden information, we both know it wasn't they had no idea about a jailor or anything back during wrath or especially frozen throne. how do you know this? they literally have retcons with in the same expansion, the novella that launch with BfA collectors is already out dated by the retcons made in the SAME expansion. it's just sad at this point

I personally wouldn't call it a retcon unless it is actively contradicts the previous lore. Helm and FMourne came from Nathrezim one way or the other. And Nathrezim lie. A lot.

Edited October 10, 2020 by Teufel

[darkgreenwax 412]

the real retcon is removing Garrosh's expletive towards Sylvanas in Silverpine!! ?

on topic I agree with the side that they're getting a bit too wacky with their explanations of mysteries.

 

sometimes, mysteries are better left as mysteries.

[Nayrusa 50]

8 hours ago, Aernath said:

We don't know if this is a "retcon" though, considering what's been told in Chronicle Vol.3 all we knew was Nathrezim helped to craft both Helm of Domination and Frostmourne in the Shadowlands. More likely this can be seen as a hidden and previously unrevealed information about how and why that has happened. 

Especially after "Enemy Infiltration" has been revealed this becomes even more proof that Nathrezim were indeed behind all this and they were actually agents of the Death in the first place, just acting like members of the Legion.

Besides that it was never mentioned in WC3 or TFT or WoW where the Helm or Frostmourne has come from
we always assumed it was legion crafted but there was never a source for that assumtion
so per definition it cant be recton because the lore wasn't changed it was simple not know.

But ppl love flaming blizz for anything cant understand all that hate
if u dislike a company then simply dont support them and ignore them its a fact

but i assume those kinda ppl have nothing better to do in there life then flaming blizz for recton no matter if its true or not

what i am interested in is a possible legion involvment we know the dreadlords are connected to the shadowlands in a way but why would they help the legion? or become part of it
and is there a connection legion / jailor? could it be that the jailer and sargeras are on the same side?
sargeras itself was not evil in terms of chaotic evil he was evil on our point of view but in his point of view he was not evil he did what he has to do in order to protect his kind the titans form beeing corrupted by the old gods or the void lords in a larger picture

wonder whats the jailers point? why does he want to azeroth / mortal realm? whats in there for sylvanas?

there plenty of questions remain and i hope we get at least some answers in shadowlands bc's bfa has not given us many
bfa has given us more questions than answers

[Starym 3,800]

As far as the retcon discussion, yea this isn't a retcon, it's just poking into old lore and expanding it (in a bad way IMO), but even if it was a retcon this *filtered* has been happening since TBC - remember when it was the Eredar that corrupted Sargeras to begin with? No? Well there you go, retcons only last until people completely forget.

[Znifler 58]

On 10/10/2020 at 7:00 AM, Grumar said:

this only works if you assume this was previously hidden information, we both know it wasn't they had no idea about a jailor or anything back during wrath or especially frozen throne. how do you know this? they literally have retcons with in the same expansion, the novella that launch with BfA collectors is already out dated by the retcons made in the SAME expansion. it's just sad at this point

So basicly what you are saying is that a written story, should have it's entire detailed story planned out in advance - till the very end? Interesting ? 

[Znifler 58]

On 10/10/2020 at 6:43 PM, Starym said:

As far as the retcon discussion, yea this isn't a retcon, it's just poking into old lore and expanding it (in a bad way IMO), but even if it was a retcon this *filtered* has been happening since TBC - remember when it was the Eredar that corrupted Sargeras to begin with? No? Well there you go, retcons only last until people completely forget.

A good retcon given that the eredar did it first. They aren't nearly as evil and cunning as the dreadlords.

[Grumar 188]

On 10/12/2020 at 6:58 AM, Znifler said:

So basicly what you are saying is that a written story, should have it's entire detailed story planned out in advance - till the very end? Interesting ? 

you should have an idea, you know what you get when you don't have an idea? BfA, rise of skywalker, Dr Who season 12, stuff that isn't only terrible on it's own but retroactively goes back and ruins moments from the story when the story was actually well written and planed out.

Edited October 13, 2020 by Grumar