Restoration Druid PvE

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This thread is for comments about our Restoration Druid Shadowlands Guide.

[jimyep 0]

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Edited October 28, 2020 by jimyep

[Guest fistofcrazy]

Typhoon is not available as a resto talent at lvl 35

[Guest Rootmender]

In the level 45 talents row, Overgrowth got a fat X, as the author stated it costs too much (30% of base mana) and has 1min cooldown. However, it only costs 600 mana on my 10k mana resto druid, so I'm not sure if it was changed or the page just has wrong information. Does that mean it could be more competitive, or Spring Blossoms and Inner Peace are still stronger options? I'm aware that Overgrowth is a one-target ability, so it might be a strong cooldown for tank healing.

[Guest OUmSKILLS]

On 10/26/2020 at 7:27 AM, Torty said:

Not sure what you wanted to say with this. 

In the easy mode guide, in the Talents sections, it has you choose Typhoon as the level 35 talent. This is not even one of the 3 options.

[Zyrnor 0]

Do you still prefer Night fae for Covenant Torty? Saw some nerfs on it but still think it's best for Resto?

[Guest Typod]

Rip and Rake are no longer available as Resto.

[Guest NeonSlowpoke]

Do you ever use thrash when catweaving?

[Guest goofydragon]

hey, i was wondering where i should use natures swiftness and didnt see it in this guide. Where do i use it and where is it in the guide if i missed it? thanks!

[Guest Sly]

Curious why social butterfly + endurance conduit is recommended over empowered crysalis + finesse for dungeons/mythics? I would think the hp buffer from crysalis gained from your hot stack on the tank would be used quite often as druids can overheal quite a bit? I was thinking the crysalis would essentially give us more time to dps as well. My immediate thought was that the versatility benefit from social butterfly diminished being a non-major stat for resto. I do get that the finesse slot seems less valuable than endurance or potency, as that seems to be the case in general for classes I've played so far.

[Guest Raid Leggo update]

December 10th patch notes

Restoration

• Vision of Unending Growth (Legendary Effect) will no longer consume Soul of the Forest (Talent).

[Guest Herc]

So balance affinity seems to have an edge on dps atm?

[Slythey 0]

Is "Vision of Unending Growth" a smart proc? EG, does it proc regrowth on injured targets if available or is it literally just any random person? If the latter, then I fail to see the value in it vs other legendary abilities that give you control of it.

[Guest Bursting]

The Bursting section mentions you may want to dispel stacks off the tank first, as they have more total health.  Wouldn't that be exactly why you *don't* want to dispel the tank first anymore, since they changed Bursting to scale with key level, and not player HP level?  You would usually want to dispel high stacks off squishier.

[Slythey 0]

Cultivation is written off too plainly here- it should be ? with a caveat. Grievous is a great week to run cultivation over soul.

[Slythey 0]

All the top M+ resto druids for the past few weeks now have been running Flourish over Photosynthesis and Verdant Infusion over Dark Titan's Lesson, as well as Abundance instead of Cenarion Ward. I've personally found that living without Cenarion Ward isn't noticeable while the benefits of Abundance are much better for group healing. Also, they are going left on Dreamwever for Well honed/Unstoppable/SoothingVoice/ConfluxofElements.

Edited January 4, 2021 by Slythey

[Rhythmatic 0]

In the Torghast section about Elethium powers, the guide incorrectly states that powers that reduce healing need to be taken with care. This is false. Only the Elethium powers that reduce NATURE damage and healing affect Resto Druids. Elethium powers that say "Fire damage and healing" for example can be taken, as they affect Fire damage and Fire healing. You can verify this in the aura information for any of these powers on wowhead.

[Guest Dezine]

Have you considered adding Rewatch to the addons list? It's built specifically for resto druids, been around for a long time, and may help both new and pro players with their HoT management. Use with mouse-over macro's or Clique recommended.

[Bogdanov89 0]

Thanks for the great guide.

Does the Abundance talent work with the 2nd Rejuvenation from the Germination talent?

And does the Cultivation talent work with the 2nd Rejuvenation from the Germination talent?

[Baaxah 0]

Hello,

I'm a bit confused about the weight between INT and other secondary stats such as haste. While doing simple tests by exchanging trinkets (65 int vs 90 haste) I looked at the tick of my rejuvenation (other 4 hots were present in both cases) and my HPS was exactly the same: of course, the value with INT was a bit higher but slower, so at the end the HPS was the same.

Do we have some maths to clearly compare characteristics at least on pure HPS ? My test was too simple; I was even considering the direct healing of regrow or anything else 🙂

Thanks for your guide

[Baaxah 0]

Thanks for Replaying Torty !

I was not aware of the formula, I'll try it out at least to see in theory how it should behave 🙂 Wowanalyser gives some weights but it is not clear to me based on what. Is it related to the way we played and the casts tracked by the logs ?

On 2/1/2021 at 2:35 PM, Torty said:

Regarding the slower part. Rejuvenation duration does not change with higher or lower Haste. It will only change with Circle of Life and Death legendary and after using flourish. Otherwise, Haste works just like Intellect for overall Rejuv healing.

Indeed, the duration wont change except for the few examples you wrote. My point was about seeing the benefits of haste and compare it to something else  (int in that case) just by checking how good a rejuv is in HPS. Haste will accelerate the ticks but int or mastery will make them stronger. At the end is just checking the value and divide by the tick period 🙂. 

 

Edited February 4, 2021 by Baaxah

[Guest Prayformercy]

Been learning how to druid heal in raids recently and was trying to figure out why theres no mention of Grove Invigoration from Niyas tree. Is it just that inferior to the dreamweaver tree? I had picked it originally because of the mention of mastery being a strong stat and the fact that you can pop convoke the spirits for an instant 16 stacks gaining 400 mastery for a 30 second window and then periodically just gaining extra healing from occasional stacks happening when you are healing. 

[Ithari 0]

Greetings, first time posting here.

 

Just wondering if anyone knew of any macros to target the rip soul during huntsman. Also, any reason in particular why a balance trinket is recommended for a healer? Just seems a little odd to have double crit trinkets when haste is more important.

[Fuhen 0]

Torty, I love your guide and reference it all the time.  Can you comment on why your guide favors Verdant Infusion while putting Dark Titan's lesson significantly lower on the list?  I ask because the guide by Jaydaa on wowhead seems to lean heavily into the opposite direction.  I was afk for Legion and BfA, so I'm kind of relearning the ropes these last few months.

Thanks,

 

-Fuhen

[Guest TheShrimp]

Torty, im confused when you say that Unending growth scale linear with haste. I feel like this isnt true. If you have more haste, your rejuv procs will come quicker and therefor add another rejuv at an earlier stage (as well as giving more possible ticks per GCD) which in turn can add another rejuv at an earlier stage and therefor provide higher hps. Wouldnt this make it exponential?