Elemental Shaman PvE

[Stormy 11]

Yeah there's been a few issues fixing things in the soulbind calculator. The short version for conduits is you generally only want 2 potency conduits (because our potency conduits are bad), you always want Call of Flame, and if you have a 2nd potency conduit (you almost always should) you want to go for your Covenant Specific conduit (or Pyroclastic Shock for Venthyr). Will be fixed shortly. 

 

I recommend checking https://bloodmallet.com/chart/shaman/elemental/soul_binds/castingpatchwerk to get a better understanding of the DPS strength of various soulbind nodes. 

[Dalkongp1 0]

is that easy mode talent elemental shaman?

is really talent choice

[Guest macro for elemental]

The macro for calling either fire or storm elemental is broken for me. I've used it for years and it just stopped working in Dragonflight prepatch. #showtooltip does not show the icon for either elemental and the second key press does not execute. Advise? how to update the macro for Dragonflight, please?
 

[Stormy 11]

Thanks for your post, the old macros indeed stopped working because of the new talent trees. Fear not however, as part of an update to the macro page, there is a new macro syntax that works for every talent choice. For your question specifically, use the following macro

 

 

#showtooltip
/target [@player, nocombat]
/cast Fire Elemental
/cast Storm Elemental
/run local G=GetSpellInfo SetMacroSpell(GetRunningMacro(), G"Fire Elemental" or G"Storm Elemental")

 

[Guest Demo]

The talent build for the Easy Mode doesn't fit with the rotation - for example in the rotation it says to keep Fire Elemental up but it should be Storm Elemental.

[Stormy 11]

Things have been in flux with elemental shaman and I forgot to update this properly. Fire & Storm ele are interchangeable in this case.

I am in the process of updating this with updated (completely changed due to the new hotfixes) information for DF release.

The updated build will be focused on Lava Burst and will not use Icefury.

[Guest Demo]

Thank you, I will check back from time to time 🙂 

[Guest Spaz]

Hey there, thanks for this guide.

You say "Makes  Icefury usable in Mythic+ but there are now better talent combinations that also keep your rotation easier. Not recommended right now.  "   but you still have it picked up in your m+ talent build. 

[Stormy 11]

Hey Spaz, my apologies this is leftover from a previous build, Icefury is indeed recommended for lightning-focused dungeon builds right now, although not mandatory.

[Guest Esmay]

I think there's an issue with the BiS weapons listed for Elemental. Infernal Shadelance and Scholar's Thinking Cudgel are both listed as BiS, but the Shadelance is a polearm and both weapons are Str, not Int.

[Stormy 11]

Should be fixed in the next update, thanks! 

[Guest Exovert]

So do we drop lightning shield to use earth shield? Can use both on ourselves right?

[Stormy 11]

1 hour ago, Guest Exovert said:

So do we drop lightning shield to use earth shield? Can use both on ourselves right?

If using the spec talent "Lightning Conduit" you always want Lightning Shield on. You generally want to use the class talent "Elemental Orbit" that lets you use both, but if not, you indeed do not use Earth Shield on yourself (you can still use it on someone else). 

[Lunalove 0]

Game just came up thought I'd go easy mode and use your talent load out, not able to import talents from the "export talent" feature. "Failed to import loadout" message in game. Thought you'd like to know! Thanks

[Natalia 20]

9 hours ago, Lunalove said:

Game just came up thought I'd go easy mode and use your talent load out, not able to import talents from the "export talent" feature. "Failed to import loadout" message in game. Thought you'd like to know! Thanks

Thanks for reporting. We're looking into it.

[Guest Talent tree export]

The talent tree cant be exported none of the options it fails can you fix this please.

[Blimpieboy 0]

On 7/24/2024 at 12:20 AM, Lunalove said:

Game just came up thought I'd go easy mode and use your talent load out, not able to import talents from the "export talent" feature. "Failed to import loadout" message in game. Thought you'd like to know! Thanks

Same. Also the Fire AoE one.

Edit:  from official forums, it looks like this affects all Shamans

Edited July 30 by Blimpieboy
Update with more info

[Guest Shaman Guest]

In your new Single Target lightning guide for TWW, you took the talent Elemental Equilibrium, which requires you to deal Fire, Frost, and Nature damage to proc. The problem is, you didnt take Frost Shock or Elemental Blast, so there is no way to do the frost damage and wasting the talent. Can you please revisit it and adjust it? Maybe take Searing Flames to get Malestrom faster, or Flames of the Cauldron to do a little more damage with Flame Shock, or Storm Fury to get quicker Lightning Bolts after Earth Shock/Earthquake. 

[Guest Boom]

Thanks for the guide. I’m coming back to Wow after several years and it has helped me tons. 
the game is a bit overwhelming 

[Draxxix 0]

On 8/31/2024 at 4:05 PM, Guest Shaman Guest said:

In your new Single Target lightning guide for TWW, you took the talent Elemental Equilibrium, which requires you to deal Fire, Frost, and Nature damage to proc. The problem is, you didnt take Frost Shock or Elemental Blast, so there is no way to do the frost damage and wasting the talent. Can you please revisit it and adjust it? Maybe take Searing Flames to get Malestrom faster, or Flames of the Cauldron to do a little more damage with Flame Shock, or Storm Fury to get quicker Lightning Bolts after Earth Shock/Earthquake. 

This is a good point, I'd also like to point out in the single target rotation it seems like we never hard cast Lava Burst? Am i understanding that correctly? It says to use it to consume Primordial wave, which doesn't really make sense anyways since its only on one target. After that it says to only cast it when you have an instant proc.

Wouldn't we want to use lava burst followed by a Nature, Physical or frost spell to activate Master of the Elements? Or does hard casting only Lightning bolt do more damage? I find it hard to believe that it would. I guess Because were taking "Thunderstrike Ward." It could be better to just cast LB?

I feel like you'd want to use PWave or Flame shock, Lava burst, Stormkeeper if its up, Lightning bolt or Earth shock if its up. Cast Lava burst again and just repeat?

[Stormy 11]

On 8/31/2024 at 11:05 PM, Guest Shaman Guest said:

In your new Single Target lightning guide for TWW, you took the talent Elemental Equilibrium, which requires you to deal Fire, Frost, and Nature damage to proc. The problem is, you didnt take Frost Shock or Elemental Blast, so there is no way to do the frost damage and wasting the talent. Can you please revisit it and adjust it? Maybe take Searing Flames to get Malestrom faster, or Flames of the Cauldron to do a little more damage with Flame Shock, or Storm Fury to get quicker Lightning Bolts after Earth Shock/Earthquake. 

Hello, Primordial Wave now deals "Elemental" damage which counts as Nature, Frost and Fire damage, meaning it instantly procs Elemental Equilibrium. Storm Frenzy is currently barely a dps increase, so are Searing flames and Flames of the Cauldron (though they are slightly better. None of those talents are even close to the level of Elemental Equilibrium however. 

[Stormy 11]

6 hours ago, Draxxix said:

This is a good point, I'd also like to point out in the single target rotation it seems like we never hard cast Lava Burst? Am i understanding that correctly? It says to use it to consume Primordial wave, which doesn't really make sense anyways since its only on one target. After that it says to only cast it when you have an instant proc.

Wouldn't we want to use lava burst followed by a Nature, Physical or frost spell to activate Master of the Elements? Or does hard casting only Lightning bolt do more damage? I find it hard to believe that it would. I guess Because were taking "Thunderstrike Ward." It could be better to just cast LB?

I feel like you'd want to use PWave or Flame shock, Lava burst, Stormkeeper if its up, Lightning bolt or Earth shock if its up. Cast Lava burst again and just repeat?

Hello, as answered above, Primordial Wave now deals "Elemental" damage, meaning it deals Nature, Fire and Frost damage and immediately procs Elemental Equilibrium.

Consuming Primordial Wave grants a significant Haste buff and a duplicated Lava Burst even with only one target. It is well worth using, especially because of Elemental Equilibrium and how important Haste is for us. As per the rotation, You essentially want to cast Lava burst once for every Primordial Wave you use. It doesn't necessarily have to be immediate. In addition, Lava Surge procs are very useful to use on movement, allowing you to move while losing little dps, but they are not worth casting otherwise over Lightning Bolt due to the power of Flash of Lightning.

As per our recommended rotation, we do indeed want to follow these Lava Bursts with an Earth Shock (or a Lightning Bolt if that is not possible) in order to benefit from Master of the Elements.

[Draxxix 0]

9 hours ago, Stormy said:

Hello, as answered above, Primordial Wave now deals "Elemental" damage, meaning it deals Nature, Fire and Frost damage and immediately procs Elemental Equilibrium.

Consuming Primordial Wave grants a significant Haste buff and a duplicated Lava Burst even with only one target. It is well worth using, especially because of Elemental Equilibrium and how important Haste is for us. As per the rotation, You essentially want to cast Lava burst once for every Primordial Wave you use. It doesn't necessarily have to be immediate. In addition, Lava Surge procs are very useful to use on movement, allowing you to move while losing little dps, but they are not worth casting otherwise over Lightning Bolt due to the power of Flash of Lightning.

As per our recommended rotation, we do indeed want to follow these Lava Bursts with an Earth Shock (or a Lightning Bolt if that is not possible) in order to benefit from Master of the Elements.

Thank you for your response, I did not know that about PWave. Makes more sense now.

 

I also watched a youtube video of a guy explaining everything in depth and it made a lot more sense after that.

[Guest Gorenthal]

Question: with the recent buffs to Mastery is the stat priority changing, I noticed that page hasnt been updated in a few weeks so I was curious your opinions after the large Mastery buff that hit today. Thanks in advance!

[Stormy 11]

3 hours ago, Guest Gorenthal said:

Question: with the recent buffs to Mastery is the stat priority changing, I noticed that page hasnt been updated in a few weeks so I was curious your opinions after the large Mastery buff that hit today. Thanks in advance!

Mastery is still last, it's just not as terrible as it was before. You won't feel quite as bad getting Mastery in your gear but you still want to avoid it if possible.