Fury Warrior PvE

[Archimtiros 10]

21 hours ago, Ennderai said:

Hi, I believe I found a typo or incomplete information in the "Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities".

In Section 2, in the skill priority it says to "Delay Avatar's cast until Enraged if also using Titan's Torment".

Which makes sense, but I believe it's missing to mention Titanic Rage, which makes it fine as far as I know to cast Avatar + Titan's Torment + Titanic Rage without being Enraged.

 

Depends on how technical you want to get with that statement.

• You do want to delay Avatar until you're enraged when using Titan's Torment.
• If you also have Titanic Rage, that will happen automatically.

However, it's important to note that in the current (prepatch/live) version of the game, the Enrage from Titanic Rage does not trigger until after Odyn's Fury begins dealing damage. This means to optimize fully, you do not want to rely on that talent and instead want to delay until you have a natural Enrage active from another source. This has since been changed on the beta to trigger Enrage before dealing damage, but that fix will not be reflected on live servers until the full expansion goes live on the 28th.

[Ennderai 0]

I see. Thank you for the insight! I was wondering if the Enrage happened before or after the automatic cast of Odyn's Fury. Glad to know they are changing it for release so it happens before.

[Ennderai 0]

Hi!

I was wondering why is it recommended to cast: Ravager -> Recklessness -> Spear of Bastion -> Avatar, instead of something like: Recklessness -> Avatar -> Ravager -> Spear of Bastion.

I'm probably missing some information here, would love to get a bit more insight into the thoughts behind this priority.

 

Thank you.

Edited December 2, 2022 by Ennderai

[Nastiness 0]

The first export string is invalid.

[Archimtiros 10]

On 12/2/2022 at 12:17 PM, Ennderai said:

Hi!

I was wondering why is it recommended to cast: Ravager -> Recklessness -> Spear of Bastion -> Avatar, instead of something like: Recklessness -> Avatar -> Ravager -> Spear of Bastion.

I'm probably missing some information here, would love to get a bit more insight into the thoughts behind this priority.

 

Thank you.

Ravager should be cast first to start generating Hurricane stacks sooner. Because it deals damage over time, having one tick fall out of cooldowns is a fairly insignificant minor loss, whereas benefitting from Hurricane sooner represents a much bigger gain.

[Archimtiros 10]

On 11/9/2022 at 5:53 PM, Ennderai said:

I see. Thank you for the insight! I was wondering if the Enrage happened before or after the automatic cast of Odyn's Fury. Glad to know they are changing it for release so it happens before.

I mentioned this in my previous post, but just for clarity - this was fixed in the live (Dragonflight proper) version of the game, so Enrage now triggers before Odyn's Fury deals damage, making the talent much more viable.

[Guest Face]

Is there a reason that your guide on wowhead has Strength > Mastery >= Crit > Haste > Versatility as stat prio, yet on here its:

1. Strength;
2. Haste;
3. Mastery;
4. Critical Strike;
5. Versatility.

[Guest Wrong spec used]

Under the mythic + talents here there is the following sentence

Quote

Arms Warriors have a lot of talent choice when it comes to Mythic+, with the flexibility to bring extra defensives, utility, and tailor their damage to the expected situation.

 

[Natalia 20]

1 hour ago, Guest Wrong spec used said:

Under the mythic + talents here there is the following sentence

 

Hi! Thank you for pointing this out. We will fix it now.

[Guest Vos]

The link for

PhoGuild's Raid Ability Timeline is a WeakAura that replaces your BigWigs/Deadly Boss Mod bars with a scrolling list of raid/dungeon boss abilities. It provides an excellent and concise view of what is coming up next in the encounter.

is currently broken. (https://wago.io/B1pfxTOtb)

I think it may have moved here: https://wago.io/Hkg7M4krQ

[Archimtiros 10]

On 12/22/2022 at 12:36 PM, Guest Vos said:

The link for

PhoGuild's Raid Ability Timeline is a WeakAura that replaces your BigWigs/Deadly Boss Mod bars with a scrolling list of raid/dungeon boss abilities. It provides an excellent and concise view of what is coming up next in the encounter.

is currently broken. (https://wago.io/B1pfxTOtb)

I think it may have moved here: https://wago.io/Hkg7M4krQ

Thanks for the update!

[Guest Shikiho]

Why is Annihilator build chosen over Crushing Blow here? From all my testing, both on dummies and in keys, Crushing Blow has almost 40% more dmg on packs and 20% more damage on single targets even if you drop Bloodthirst from your bars completely and just substitute it with Raging Blow.

[Guest FurryWarrior]

On 1/15/2023 at 12:37 PM, Guest Shikiho said:

Why is Annihilator build chosen over Crushing Blow here? From all my testing, both on dummies and in keys, Crushing Blow has almost 40% more dmg on packs and 20% more damage on single targets even if you drop Bloodthirst from your bars completely and just substitute it with Raging Blow.

I have found the same thing, DPS goes way up with Crushing Blow build. I think this guide is from pre-patch and has not been updated.

[rowaasr13 17]

> Unfortunately, the new talent system does not contain any functionality for using an ability only if a specific talent is selected

I'm pretty sure it does for long time already. Just tested it to be sure and it works:

#showtooltip [known:Annihilator] Slam; Raging Blow
/cast [known:Annihilator] Slam; Raging Blow

[Guest Spears questions]

Talent section suggests picking up Champion's Spear as a talent but it's now shown in the rotation.  Is this some sort of mix up with Spear of the Bastion which is shown in rotation?

[Archimtiros 10]

On 2/13/2024 at 4:33 PM, Guest Spears questions said:

Talent section suggests picking up Champion's Spear as a talent but it's now shown in the rotation.  Is this some sort of mix up with Spear of the Bastion which is shown in rotation?

The name change probably broke something in the way it translates spell links. I'll fix it up today!

[Guest Omen]

The Talent string doesn't show Champion Spear as being taken, however it's in the rotation. Is it meant to be taken? 

[GullyFoyle 0]

Recommended weapon buff is wafting which gives haste and speed. I'm maxxed with haste at over 30% so extra is dimminishing returns, so wouldn't Sophic be better even without the extra speed?

[Guest MadLad]

Taking spell reflect at level 24 is not possible. It requires another point before being able to take it. I assumed storm bolt should be placed up there and not at level 64.

[Archimtiros 10]

On 8/30/2024 at 5:38 PM, Guest MadLad said:

Taking spell reflect at level 24 is not possible. It requires another point before being able to take it. I assumed storm bolt should be placed up there and not at level 64.

This was corrected in the most recent update (which may not have deployed yet).

• The build initially took Pain & Gain early, because you don't need Storm Bolt while leveling. However, you do eventually want Thunder Clap for Mountain Thane, so the build went back to make room for those extra points. Unfortunately the tool doesn't support respeccing, so it's now just been changed to grab Storm Bolt, Thunder Clap, Crackling Thunder, and Seismic Reverberation early. You don't need these points and will not use them until late game, but it's not going to hurt anything to get them early either.

[2en 0]

Hi.

I just want to point out that at the fury leveling talents has "Victory Rush" in the rotation, but the selected talents replacing it with "Impending Victory" so it is not available. Additional i see that "Odyn's Fury" is in the rotation for level 60, what is not available at this level.

Edited September 7 by 2en

[Archimtiros 10]

On 9/7/2024 at 6:35 PM, 2en said:

Hi.

I just want to point out that at the fury leveling talents has "Victory Rush" in the rotation, but the selected talents replacing it with "Impending Victory" so it is not available. Additional i see that "Odyn's Fury" is in the rotation for level 60, what is not available at this level.

Victory Rush and Impending Victory are the same button, and Odyn's Fury is talented at level 55, so it is also available at L60. Could you double check on this, because everything looks correct on my end.

[2en 0]

5 hours ago, Archimtiros said:

Victory Rush and Impending Victory are the same button, and Odyn's Fury is talented at level 55, so it is also available at L60. Could you double check on this, because everything looks correct on my end.

I just importet the talents with the string what i got from the guide with a level 60 char and it did not have Odyn's Fury selected. At level 62 i used the string again and then i got it. I am very sure about this. Meybe i can select it manually, but i do not get it with the import string at level 60.

 

And about Victory Rush and Impending Victory, it is true that it is the same button, but if you are new to this, you will not know this. It would be a nice to have for newbies, if the guide is using the name you are able to find in the talent book.

Edited September 9 by 2en

[str0mback 0]

On 9/9/2024 at 8:48 PM, 2en said:

I just importet the talents with the string what i got from the guide with a level 60 char and it did not have Odyn's Fury selected. At level 62 i used the string again and then i got it. I am very sure about this. Meybe i can select it manually, but i do not get it with the import string at level 60.

 

And about Victory Rush and Impending Victory, it is true that it is the same button, but if you are new to this, you will not know this. It would be a nice to have for newbies, if the guide is using the name you are able to find in the talent book.

The export string is for the final build and (AFAIK) it's not possible to set up an export to include the level-by-level talent selections.

Which is why this page exists: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-leveling-guide#best-fury-warrior-leveling-talents.

Regarding Victory Rush, it's good for players to read through their abilities and talents to get an understanding of the class they're playing. So for people just copying the macro, it will work just fine. For people like you, you learned that due to a talent, Victory Rush is is upgraded to Impending Victory.

Considering that Victory Rush is available at level 5 and Impending Victory at 12, I see no reason to explicitly confuse the people on the off-chance that someone might not pick Impending Victory, thus making a macro with /cast Impending Victory useless, whereas /cast Victory Charge works for everyone.

Edited September 27 by str0mback
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[Guest rakkarage]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities

the reckless abandon checkbox tooltip/link is wrong. it points here:

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=202751

but that is gone and replaced with this i think:

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=396749/reckless-abandon

thanks