[Archived] Frost Mage 5.4

[Berlinia 168]

It procs on spell hit. 
What you might have experienced is that the moment your Frostbolt leaves your hadn, thre previous one hit.
if it didn't proc on spell hit then if you missed you would still have a chance to proc the buff but that is not the case.

[Guest Guest]

Just wondering, although it doesn't really make much of a difference, why weren't the prideful items included in teh BIS list?

Depending on the stats, or reforge necessity they would be on par with their flex counterpart, maybe even better for certain specs..

Especially for the whole casual bunch (or people on alts lookign for best optimization of items) who keep mingling in lfr/flex raids the prideful items might prove a decent alternative, no?

[Damien 1,514]

Just wondering, although it doesn't really make much of a difference, why weren't the prideful items included in teh BIS list?

Depending on the stats, or reforge necessity they would be on par with their flex counterpart, maybe even better for certain specs..

Especially for the whole casual bunch (or people on alts lookign for best optimization of items) who keep mingling in lfr/flex raids the prideful items might prove a decent alternative, no?

It would, it is just that the script that generates these tables ignores PvP items. It may be kind of late to change this, given that WoD is 2 months and a half away, but I will definitely try to include more PvP items in the future. Thanks for the suggestion!

[Berlinia 168]

To be fair though, in WoD we shouldn't even compose BiS lists as there won't be such a thing. Try making one around Warforged, Gems, Extra Stats!

[Archimage 98]

It procs on spell hit. 

What you might have experienced is that the moment your Frostbolt leaves your hadn, thre previous one hit.

if it didn't proc on spell hit then if you missed you would still have a chance to proc the buff but that is not the case.

 

I went and tested this again, I casted each frostbolt 3 seconds after it did damage to the target just to make sure:

 

FoF procs when you finished casting.

 

Maybe it is because the game calculates if the spell Hits when you finish the cast, and not when the projectile reaches the target; You can clearly see this if you look at the projectile if it will hit or miss.

[Guest Pobokan]

Why is there so much critgear in the bis list?

Seems like a huge waste

[Damien 1,514]

Why is there so much critgear in the bis list?

Seems like a huge waste

There is no BiS list.

[Berlinia 168]

And you can get quite some crit on Frost without losing anything. 

[arqas 0]

There seems to be an ambiguity in the rotation guide, i.e.:

 

§2, ¶4: In the case of ≥5 enemies, use a cast sequence involving Frost Bomb, Frozen Orb, Cone of Cold, along with Blizzard as the filler.

 

whereas further down,

 

§5.1, ¶4: In the case of lots of enemies, use Frozen Orb along with Ice Lance spam.

 

The stated conditions are equivalent, but the two sequences aren't literally compatible. Is there some additional information that would have clarified the difference—which works better in general?

[Oltier 471]

There seems to be an ambiguity in the rotation guide, i.e.:

 

§2, ¶4: In the case of ≥5 enemies, use a cast sequence involving Frost Bomb, Frozen Orb, Cone of Cold, along with Blizzard as the filler.

 

whereas further down,

 

§5.1, ¶4: In the case of lots of enemies, use Frozen Orb along with Ice Lance spam.

 

The stated conditions are equivalent, but the two sequences aren't literally compatible. Is there some additional information that would have clarified the difference—which works better in general?

When Frozen orb is off cooldown (60 seconds), use Frozen Orb, and spam your Ice Lance to spend the FoF charges.

Otherwise (so most of the time) use the above rotation. Frost Bomb, CoC, Blizzard. :)