wow Should Soul Ash Work Like Conquest?

[Stan 5,240]

Many are upset that there's no Soul Ash catch-up. With it, Shadowlands would possibly be the most alt-friendly WoW expansion.

You can currently catch up on Renown, but there's no way to get Soul Ash if you miss out on Torghast for the week. The community has suggested a really simple solution for the problem.

Some Reddit users suggest Soul Ash should work like the Conquest cap meaning each week, there would be a cap that you could grind to catch up. The cap would increase with each week.

Others think it won't really matter when all layers become available because you will be able to farm enough Soul Ash to craft a Legendary in just 1 week.

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You also need to take diminishing returns into account, as Torghast layers give you less Soul Ash the higher difficulties you complete.

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At the end of the day, it would be nice to have some sort of catch-up and players would have more reasons to play Torghast. Do you think Blizzard will come up with a Soul Ash catch-up in the future? 

Source: Reddit

[Mishmish 65]

I see no good reason this isn't the case. If they still wanna reward people who played more, they can make the catchup 90% or whatever, but no catchup at all seems unsustainable for peoplenjoining next tier or whatever. 

On that note, pvp honor gear should scale around hc level in pvp, like warlords, so new players can easily make a set and not get one shotted. Even with conquest, you get less then an item per week. 

[durdyenglish 298]

It's literally never enough for WOW players.

[Melcahia 36]

1 hour ago, durdyenglish said:

It's literally never enough for WOW players.

since WotLK, is the same every expansion...WOW players are never satisfied...no matter what.

[Manbearpig 28]

1 hour ago, Mishmish said:

I see no good reason this isn't the case. If they still wanna reward people who played more, they can make the catchup 90% or whatever, but no catchup at all seems unsustainable for peoplenjoining next tier or whatever. 

On that note, pvp honor gear should scale around hc level in pvp, like warlords, so new players can easily make a set and not get one shotted. Even with conquest, you get less then an item per week. 

A good reason for the playerbase, isn't the same thing as a good reason for Blizzard. I mean, look at how Covenants are spec specific... oh wait they aren't. 😉

Edited December 10, 2020 by Manbearpig

[ResoWho 68]

cant you get your ilvl 190 legendary in 1 week allrdy with the soul ash quests and after that week upgrade it to 210 aswell? i cant see the reason for the drama, you are missing some stats if its not the highest ilvl but the legendary effect is the same for ilvl 190 and max ilvl. 

also in my opinion drop rates are way to high for something called "legendary" but thats another topic

Edited December 10, 2020 by ResoWho

[Znifler 58]

2 hours ago, durdyenglish said:

It's literally never enough for WOW players.

I agree here. This expansion is so incredibly good, and yet it keeps on being shut down by some. Of course feedback is good, and change is always welcome if needed by the majority. Though, they ask of this in week 3, and demand it like it's gamebreaking almost. Maybe this is a good thing to not be implemented, so people relax and take more time with family, play on main character, other games etc. 

Heck, between all the other games I play, and work (which isn't much these days), I barelly have time to play on my main. It's so incredibly much to do this expansion, in a good way - especially Torghast. My oh my, is that place perfectly crafted. I love it. 

[Libraridan 36]

Catch-up? Really? In a two week old expansion? Well, the rot in realistic player expectations just continues to grow.

[durdyenglish 298]

4 minutes ago, Znifler said:

I agree here. This expansion is so incredibly good, and yet it keeps on being shut down by some. Of course feedback is good, and change is always welcome if needed by the majority. Though, they ask of this in week 3, and demand it like it's gamebreaking almost. Maybe this is a good thing to not be implemented, so people relax and take more time with family, play on main character, other games etc. 

Heck, between all the other games I play, and work (which isn't much these days), I barelly have time to play on my main. It's so incredibly much to do this expansion, in a good way - especially Torghast. My oh my, is that place perfectly crafted. I love it. 

People want to do it all in one week and then complain there's nothing to do for two years.

[Bobbis 208]

3 minutes ago, Znifler said:

I agree here. This expansion is so incredibly good, and yet it keeps on being shut down by some. Of course feedback is good, and change is always welcome if needed by the majority. Though, they ask of this in week 3, and demand it like it's gamebreaking almost. Maybe this is a good thing to not be implemented, so people relax and take more time with family, play on main character, other games etc. 

Heck, between all the other games I play, and work (which isn't much these days), I barelly have time to play on my main. It's so incredibly much to do this expansion, in a good way - especially Torghast. My oh my, is that place perfectly crafted. I love it. 

Unfortunately, there are also those of us they don't like it, or don't enjoy it as much. I have a main, and 2 alts I want to keep up for the mythic team, but doing so many Torghast runs is a depressing thought. Much rather spend the time in M+ pushing but need the leggo. Today, doing layer 4 5 6, 6 again and the Jaina quest, was just boring. 

I've never been a fan of roguelikes/lites, it's annoying to lose so much power when you leave, or entering not knowing if the run will be super easy and OP or a dismal grind to the end depending on power RNG just isn't exciting to me. And now I have to do it all again for a dh and lock since progression is (understandably) char specific, though imo could/should be acc wide like the stigia upgrades.

[nihiloi 2]

51 minutes ago, Znifler said:

I agree here. This expansion is so incredibly good, and yet it keeps on being shut down by some. Of course feedback is good, and change is always welcome if needed by the majority. Though, they ask of this in week 3, and demand it like it's gamebreaking almost. Maybe this is a good thing to not be implemented, so people relax and take more time with family, play on main character, other games etc. 

Heck, between all the other games I play, and work (which isn't much these days), I barelly have time to play on my main. It's so incredibly much to do this expansion, in a good way - especially Torghast. My oh my, is that place perfectly crafted. I love it. 

OP wrote, literally, "can we please get this changed?" I'm just not tracking how that is not an OK way to ask for something that you think would be an improvement.

It is hard to read intended tone in writing, but I do not view the original Reddit post shared above as "demanding," nor am I seeing the implication that it is "gamebreaking" to not have it.

[Dejo93 1,023]

Let's be real. They'll put catch-up in 9.2 or .3. Also how do you get conquest (PVE player here)?

[Mishmish 65]

5 hours ago, Znifler said:

I agree here. This expansion is so incredibly good, and yet it keeps on being shut down by some. Of course feedback is good, and change is always welcome if needed by the majority. Though, they ask of this in week 3, and demand it like it's gamebreaking almost. Maybe this is a good thing to not be implemented, so people relax and take more time with family, play on main character, other games etc. 

Heck, between all the other games I play, and work (which isn't much these days), I barelly have time to play on my main. It's so incredibly much to do this expansion, in a good way - especially Torghast. My oh my, is that place perfectly crafted. I love it. 

The expac is good, but people are in different phases of the game and for some this would be prohlematic. 

 

What is someone to do if he joins a week or more away? Grind 1 legendary for one specc? Sure, it works, but i dont think there's a need for the limitation. 

[elmurufdd 45]

meh leave it as it is really not worth the time investment vs reward to even do past a 3 . clear a layer 6 feels like killing all the trash in molten core in vanilla with 20 pll instead of 40 maps are way to big and full of trash

[Znifler 58]

On 12/10/2020 at 5:30 PM, nihiloi said:

OP wrote, literally, "can we please get this changed?" I'm just not tracking how that is not an OK way to ask for something that you think would be an improvement.

It is hard to read intended tone in writing, but I do not view the original Reddit post shared above as "demanding," nor am I seeing the implication that it is "gamebreaking" to not have it.

The way he asked is exactly what I explained. "cAn We PlEaSe GeT tHiS cHaNgEd?", isn't really a positive tone the way he wrote it if summed up togheter. 

You can ask someone "please help me", which usually means you ask in a nice way. But the context here, makes it demanding.