wow 5 Quality of Life Improvements for Shadowlands

[Stan 5,240]

Here are some quality of life changes we would like to see in Shadowlands.

Maw Intro Skip

The Shadowlands Intro questline cannot be skipped currently. The worst thing about the intro is that you spend 75% of the time just listening to RP and what the NPCs have to say. Many players would appreciate it if they could skip it on alts and if Threads of Fate, the Adventure Mode leveling system, began at Icecrown Citadel. Let's keep our fingers crossed for Patch 9.1...

Legendary Power Recipes

Memories, or Legendary Power recipes, currently drop from various bosses inside a dungeon, making many players leave in the middle of the run if they don't drop. A nice quality-of-life change would be if only end-of-dungeon bosses dropped them. All players would stay in the group to finish the dungeon that way.

Torghast Quests & Soul Ash Catch-Up

Bolvar will offer you only 1 quest per week, so if you just started playing the game, it will take a long time to unlock Twisting Corridors and complete the whole questline.

Soul Ash, the currency needed to craft Legendaries, has no catch-up system either. One might argue that with all Torghast layers open, you don't need it, but it might become an issue when everyone has multiple Rank 4 Legendaries, and they become an entry point for raiding, and you start playing.

Phantasma

Phantasma should fly to you by itself, similar to how it does when you destroy Ashen Phylacteries in Torghast, and you shouldn't waste time looting it from mobs.

Account-Wide Reputation

It's really a pity that we don't have an account-wide reputation system yet in WoW. It would be cool if there was a system that lets us focus on the endgame, and we wouldn't need to farm the same boring reputation on our third alt over and over again.

Mists of Pandaria commendations were a good system that shouldn't have been abandoned. You unlocked them after hitting Revered and unlocked 100% bonus reputation gain with the factions for all characters on the account.

• Grand Commendation of the Anglers
• Grand Commendation of the August Celestials
• Grand Commendation of the Dominance Offensive
• Grand Commendation of the Golden Lotus
• Grand Commendation of the Kirin Tor Offensive
• Grand Commendation of the Klaxxi
• Grand Commendation of Operation: Shieldwall
• Grand Commendation of the Order of the Cloud Serpent
• Grand Commendation of the Shado-Pan
• Grand Commendation of the Sunreaver Onslaught
• Grand Commendation of the Tillers

Can you think of any other suggestions you would add to the list?

[Mugendai 48]

Just give us 3 loots instead of two in mythic + and i'll come back to the game

[Valhalen 1,484]

The Soul Ash catch up is so necessary, because since WoD I became very discouraged to play alts because a single character already requires so much time sink with stuff like mission tables, artifact power grinding, and now soul ash. This should also be the case for anima, to be honest.

[Migol 433]

Maw still needs their promised revamp.    All they did in the time after making the statement was add some dailies and new Venari purchases (mostly for torghast).     It's still a slow-*filtered* grind with too much on foot walking to be any fun for non druids/worgen/shaman.    The possible mount drop or twisted corridors reward are too lengthy to get even now unless extremely lucky on the drop

[Mishmish 65]

Soul ash catchup is so neccesary its unreal. Don't think anyone would suffer from it and the game would become healthier for alts and multi speccs. 

Frankly I'd also add it as reward from any endgame (pvp, m+, raiding), so people who really just don't like torghast don't have to do it. 

[honky027 0]

Account-wide rep is a must for every expac,escpecially if you're timegating stuff or rep locking recipes etc etc. Also,bring back that damn Flight Master's Whistle.

[Arcling 898]

Overall, Torghast is pretty boring, so I would welcome any interesting additions to it. Totally agree about legendary power drops, weird they didn't see it coming. It was obvious that they needed to put those legendary powers on last bosses, very easy solution to stop people from leaving early.

The Maw could use many improvements, including more points for fast travel and they should add some reputation dailies. Never liked that cramped design, can't go anywhere without pulling groups of mobs.

[Dejo93 1,023]

Knowing Blizz, they''l probably implement this in 9.3

[Frogspoison 63]

Flight Master's !@#$ing whistle.

 

So many times I've gotten stuck and had to hearth to get out. All kinds of nooks and crannys to be honest.

[Valhalen 1,484]

1 hour ago, Frogspoison said:

So many times I've gotten stuck and had to hearth to get out. All kinds of nooks and crannys to be honest.

It is like Blizzard doesn't internally test their stuff. I've ran into some situations like that and it is indeed very infuriating. One of them was inside Torghast, where I was halfway through a solo tier 5 run and got that Anima Power that prevents you from jumping, and I got feared to a small nook and almost couldn't get out; only managed to get unstuck thanks to Moonkin's Flap spell.

[Kyrshin 2]

Totally agree on all of these, but I created an account specifically to comment about how MUCH I agree with the Reputation bit.

As someone who has the Beloved title, the fact that Reputations aren't just account-wide boggles my mind.

• All transmog rewards from Reputation are account wide.
• All title rewards from Reputation are account wide.
• In the Maw, all Torghast upgrades are account-wide.

Why just not make the whole thing account-wide? Is Blizzard worried about Paragon chests? Maybe they're worried about Reputations that some characters can't have, like making Alliance reputations account-wide on the Horde by accident, or Court of Night for non-Night Fae characters? All of that seems trivial, and the places where Rep isn't account-wide, like purchasing crafting recipes or unlocking Legion artifact appearances, just creates unnecessary friction.

[Venjur 0]

Where's my more bank tabs?!?!

[Skorpionss 0]

15 hours ago, Mishmish said:

Soul ash catchup is so neccesary its unreal. Don't think anyone would suffer from it and the game would become healthier for alts and multi speccs. 

Frankly I'd also add it as reward from any endgame (pvp, m+, raiding), so people who really just don't like torghast don't have to do it. 

Mate, it's the 2nd month of the expansion, what the *filtered* do you need to catch up to now? I agree that in 9.1 they should add catch-up mechanics for the Bolvar Quests, Soul Ash, stygia, Ven'ary rep. But it's fine the way it is now, the game is still fresh, you don't need 20 alts in the first 2 months of the expac.

[Mishmish 65]

1 hour ago, Skorpionss said:

Mate, it's the 2nd month of the expansion, what the *filtered* do you need to catch up to now? I agree that in 9.1 they should add catch-up mechanics for the Bolvar Quests, Soul Ash, stygia, Ven'ary rep. But it's fine the way it is now, the game is still fresh, you don't need 20 alts in the first 2 months of the expac.

I don't, and i imagine you don't, but we're imaginative enough to think of more then ourselves, aren't we? Some people started 3 weeks later. They're already pretty behind. You can tell them "it's just one legendary you'll get it" as long as you want, its still pretty demotivating. Some people do make alts, not even many, just one or two. Keeping up with torghast on even two characters is a lot of time. I didn't bother with my alts. 

Does this ruin the expac? Nope, but its not helping it either, and i dont think we gain something from keeping it until (hopefully) the first patch. 

[Valhalen 1,484]

2 hours ago, Mishmish said:

I don't, and i imagine you don't, but we're imaginative enough to think of more then ourselves, aren't we? Some people started 3 weeks later. They're already pretty behind. You can tell them "it's just one legendary you'll get it" as long as you want, its still pretty demotivating. Some people do make alts, not even many, just one or two. Keeping up with torghast on even two characters is a lot of time. I didn't bother with my alts. 

Does this ruin the expac? Nope, but its not helping it either, and i dont think we gain something from keeping it until (hopefully) the first patch. 

Precisely. Dealing with alts was completely ok when all you had to do was go to dungeons/raid and get loot. Easy peasy. But now there are these system which require you to grind resources that are pretty much mandatory for gearing, and running alts becomes discouraging. If Blizzard is going to keep up with this kind of system, they could at least make it easier for those that have alts and/or don't have a lot of free time to play.

Edited December 28, 2020 by Valhalen

[Daxist 1]

As someone keeping with with 3 alts and planing to do more, i have no problem with soul ash. One of them was done this week and has 1200 soul ash already. Getting to floor 8 takes a little while, but one you are there it takes 20ish minutes to complete and you get 570 soul ash, + the torgast mission, it makes no sense for a soul ash catch up system. If you want soul ash do the 20 minute dungeon in a group, not really hard.

On the other hand a lot of the other things here would be great, they have renown catch up so why isn't there a torgast story catch up.

[DisposableHeero 0]

A flight master's whistle and loot reroll tokens.  Honestly loot scarcity, with all of the reductions in the amount of loot dropped by group content is the thing most in the way of shadowlands being an enjoyable expansion.

[Valhalen 1,484]

10 hours ago, DisposableHeero said:

A flight master's whistle and loot reroll tokens.  Honestly loot scarcity, with all of the reductions in the amount of loot dropped by group content is the thing most in the way of shadowlands being an enjoyable expansion.

All that, and also Emblems. In older expansions Emblems gave you long-term goals and made every single dungeon and raid run feel rewarding, as you could later exchange those Emblems for Raid-level gear. Because killing Nathria bosses and getting 35 Anima is really sad. Also, they should increase the Anima you get from bosses; 35 Anima is nothing. You get stacks of 35 anima by doing a single World Quest. Bosses should give like, 250 Anima instead.

Another thing I'd like to see is some class balance. Healers don't feel impactful anymore since Legion, specially with tanks nowadays having enough self-sustain that healers don't matter. It also grinds my gears how DPS specs having more healing power than actual Healer specs; yeah sure, the DPS have a much lower mana pool, but doesn't make any sense to me.

[SpankyTwo 11]

Allow you to do the campaign questline without having to go off the path to do side quests or dungeons BEFORE you get the quest to do the dungeon. There should be enough campaign quests to get you to 60 without having to sidetrack. That way you can follow the main storyline. Otherwise get rid of the badge quests. 

[SpankyTwo 11]

Allow you to do the campaign questline without having to go off the path to do side quests or dungeons BEFORE you get the quest to do the dungeon. There should be enough campaign quests to get you to 60 without having to sidetrack. That way you can follow the main storyline.

Otherwise get rid of the badge (Campaign) quests.