wow Global Release, Hidden Kills, Echo Rivalry and More: Complexity-Limit Big Post RWF Win Interview

[Starym 3,800]

 

It took a while, but I finally caught up with Complexity-Limit and had a chat about their big Castle Nathria Race to World First win over at Raider.IO. We talked about the global release and how it could be implemented, the extremely exciting final day on Denathrius with Echo, the old-school kill-hiding ways returning, their thoughts on Shadowlands systems, their back-to-back win, obviously, and many many more topics!

Here's a couple highlights, but be sure to check out the full interview over on Raider.IO.

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Q: There has been a lot of discussion about a global raid release/“leveling the playing field” recently. Do you have any thoughts on how that could be successfully accomplished?

THD: You could have both regions have same resets for the first 1-2 weeks then move it back to the original dates for farm periods, but that would probably be strange to communicate to the mass of players. Blizzard could simply just change the reset times worldwide and allow cross play across regions as well - that way EU and NA players can play together. It is always a great time on the new expansion beta servers being able to play with players from other regions. Also, the tech already exists, considering NA can play with OCE and we can have 250 ping (and we realistically would only have about 100-150 playing with EU). If they ever allow cross-region play that would definitely be when they make a worldwide raid release. I would not like a tournament realm as a solution since I feel like that ruins character progression, which is incredibly important in an MMORPG.

Atlas: I’m personally an advocate for a global release, but it would be really messy for Blizzard to pull off. I sympathize with many people who play on EU that feel like they’ve been handicapped in some sense by having to start later and if I was in that position I would be quite frustrated myself.

Q: What did you think of the resurgence of the old-school off-stream prog kills/strat building? (Related to both your Council VoD and Echo’s streaming pause.)

THD: That 1 hour of no stream time where we killed the boss definitely helped because when we woke up and saw Echo not stacking for recitals and taking 30+ pulls it was pretty clear they did not put much thought into Council of Blood. However, Echo not streaming for 2 days was a bit strange and while I understand it from the view point of not wanting to release any strategies, in the end both strategies were pretty similar (outside of P2 where Echo did a more front-loaded approach and we took a slightly easier P2 that had difficulty spreading throughout the phase). If P2 was harder maybe it would’ve been beneficial, but since both our guilds were insane we pretty much came up with the same comp/strat in the end with minor differences.

Atlas: With or without a global release, streaming progression has brought about its own set of challenges. At the end of the day we are in a competition, and if there’s a substantial advantage to be had, we’ll take it. With that being said, we’re also here to provide coverage of as much of the race as we can. It feels shitty as a viewer to be locked out of being able to watch the guild you’re supporting. We turned off our streams on Council of Blood this tier and have also done so in the past when we reached N’zoth’s secret mythic phase. Usually if we’ve turned off our streams, it’s been at the end of our raid nights with about 30-45 minutes left of pulls. If there’s something substantially advantageous we can find out during that time, or if there’s a certain strategy that we don’t want to give away (see Council of Blood w/ Dark Recital and correct kill order), then we’re content with not streaming those 30-45 minutes after having already streamed for something like 13-14 hours of the day. I don’t think there’s ever a world where we’d turn off our streams for a majority of the day though; I think that just ruins the entire spectacle that is streaming the Race to World First. With all that being said, it was kind of interesting to me at least having Echo not stream Denathrius. The uncertainty of knowing where they were in the fight and what made them want to turn off their streams in the first place was really mysterious and a little anxiety-inducing for me personally.

 

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A global release would be the only fair option, especially when guilds are streaming and showing their strats.