wow The Night Fae Suffer the Consequences: Mission Table Problems

[Starym 3,800]

 

The recent round of tuning saw the Night Fae combo nerfed significantly and now it seems plenty of players are having problems with their adventures!

The tuning saw the incredibly OP Trapper Bramble Trap ability get redesigned, which meant that Night Fae players couldn't just send a bunch of the troop and whichever companion (usually Dreamweaver, as he's powerful in his own right) on missions far above their level and complete them no problem. So what's the issue now, surely the Night Fae are just now experiencing what the Venthyr and Kyrian were since launch right?

Well not quite, as with the crazy combo, NF players pushed to the maximum with campaign missions and their adventures are now very high level, with some having gotten to level 60 already with low level companions (20-30). That means that they now basically can't finish any missions at all and are stuck, at least for a while, farming XP. But there's no XP missions at the final level of adventures either, so they just have to go and fail the gold elite ones to get around 1.5k XP each, and get all the companions sent beaten up and having to heal for a long time! And considering the anima costs of healing, as you can imagine, they're not too happy about it.

Here's just a few of the threads of players being quite unhappy with how this all played out:

• Mission table is now broken
• I know everyone likes to meme the night fae table, but I can't even complete lvl 36 missions with my best lvl 41+ followers now
• So, did a nerf to the Night Fae mission table go wide, or is Venture Plan lying to me?

And here's how it worked before, as a level 27 Dreamweaver and 4 trappers take down a level 60 mission:

So, are the Night Fae getting their just deserts after having it so easy for so long, or is this actually also unfair, as they are now stuck failing missions for quite a while?

[Imarai 17]

I've found it very frustrating that the further along you progress with the mission table, you get fewer xp missions. And yet we keep getting given new followers at lvl one. How are they supposed to level up? The table should really keep providing a few missions at lower levels, until all your followers are maxed.

[Pandabuffel 184]

Offcourse it isn't fair. They didn't chose to have an OP-troop, it was given to them as a basic thing. Offcourse you're going to use it and do all those adventures, they had no knowledge of being so far ahead might backfire in this way if they suddenly got nerfed hard. There is no reason to put any blame or punishment on the Night Fae-players for simply playing the game, and there should be a solution available for them.

This is from a Kyrian player just to be clear.

[Darkclaw 23]

since the first nerf to the melee trapper troop i can't complete 90% of the missions, now i can't complete any of them BUT some anima ones, for now im just sending my followers to death to farm exp until they get a buff or something, sad but i saw it coming.

[ResoWho 68]

since the nerf i stopped doing missions. my quests are at max level while my highest follower is lvl 39. before nerf i used to put every follower in a single mission, now its just a waste of anima since you cant complete most missions succesfully and i need the anima to upgrade my garden

[willowbird 8]

I will never understand why they chose to do missions this way.  The missions available should match the level range of your followers. It's so easy it's obvious. When you pick up a new follower, you should have a LOW level (<5) mission available for them, and the highest level missions should never far exceed your highest level follower.  

[Frogspoison 63]

Most of our companions were on par with the Venthyr/Bastion companions. On the one hand, the Trappers were very powerful - On the other hand, they were also a crutch.

 

And now that the Trappers have been nerfed, Night Fae are on par with pre-buff Venthyr/Bastion - Bottom of the pile. If not somewhat worse.

Edited February 1, 2021 by Frogspoison

[Executor 0]

It doesn't make any sense to punish someone for someone else's mistakes. My assumption was that the covenants were balanced but that wasn't true. Spending 50 anima for just 1500 xp is worse than the missions that would give bonus xp. You don't have to spend anima to heal your companions since they are going to fail anyway. I used to think that I had to spend anima to heal them, but they will naturally heal over time. Spending a huge amount of anima to heal your companions is just a scam in my opinion. Another big problem is that your troops can go down in level. I assume it is because I got new companions that my troops lost maybe 12 levels. I have to decide if I want to spend anima leveling my companions on missions that are going to fail or spend it on other things. It feels like I'm at a big disadvantage compared to other people that can still use the bonus xp missions and not be forced to fail their missions.

[Seksi 208]

To be fair I did the mistake of completing the advancement missions too soon even on my Necrolord main (which were widely regarded as the strongest covenant when not taking Trappers into account) and pretty much been suiciding to 1500 xp missions for a few months now, its just how the adventures work right now once you do 12 / 16 missions 😞, does feel a bit bad to level new companions like that, on the other hand I'm taking it easy on my Venthyr priest just leaving that 12th advancement mission to rot and he's cruising with no problems, but also rarely if ever gets to loot 6 augment runes from a single mission and ofc, wouldn't have gotten the 4 mounts yet without the Necrolord overleveling, so really both methods have their ups and downs (more consistent / cheaper progress with lower level missions, but better rewards at the top). 

Think it would benefit our Fae bros to read the guide I penned on the adventures and how to position / gauge troop abilities accordingly 🙂 leaving the link here for anyone interested: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/covenant-adventures-in-the-shadowlands-expansion

[fordfiesta 1]

Is there a way to do the level 20 soul ash mission now as night fae?  I haven't leveled up the missions, all of mine are still 14-20, and my crew is around level 25, but it doesn't seem like there's a way to complete the mission any more.  If anyone has a combo for it that works currently can you please post it?

[Seksi 208]

3 minutes ago, fordfiesta said:

Is there a way to do the level 20 soul ash mission now as night fae?  I haven't leveled up the missions, all of mine are still 14-20, and my crew is around level 25, but it doesn't seem like there's a way to complete the mission any more.  If anyone has a combo for it that works currently can you please post it?

Over level it, put tanky / damage reducing adventurers in the spots taking the most damage (check the red spots when mousing over the placed adventurers with Venture Plan addon installed) and have your healers / strong damage dealing characters with weak health on the spots taking little to no damage, then check the book for the mission success estimation. Even if you cannot do it with your current 25 crew, you can go get more from Torghast and from maxing out your Renown and work towards leveling the ones with really strong powers further! Good luck 🙂 

[Calin 50]

Other players are not your enemies...
This isn't a problem that night fae was too powerful before.
It's a problem that venthyr and kyrian was too weak.
Whenever they nerf something to the ground and create a void like this, then players are getting hurt.
They could easily have brought other cov's up to par instead and that wouldn't have created this bad feeling (which was entirely blizz's fault from lack of testing.)

[Toky 37]

this is the last straw. i'm done with this expac. 

[Laragon 269]

1 hour ago, Toky said:

this is the last straw. i'm done with this expac. 

Your last straw is that you knowingly cheesed the system and are mad because you're punished for it?

[Grumar 188]

the table is super dumb, cheesing it was the only thing that SEMI made it worth while, was only using it to get pet charms, guess i'll just get a few less pets as quickly.... it's way too convoluted for something that rewards nothing useful imo, it was perfect amount of difficult in legion

Edited February 2, 2021 by Grumar

[Libraridan 36]

Funny thing about nerfing is that if you don't know it's happening...it doesn't. I may have noticed quests getting a bit more demanding but since I am running quests on all 4 covenant tables I hardly noticed. Ignorance is bliss in this situation.