wow Why Valor Point Vendors Will Likely Never Return in World of Warcraft

[Stan 5,240]

Players wanted to see Valor Points return in their original form as a currency to buy gear, but we are looking into why that is extremely unlikely to happen.

Valor Point Vendors Back Then

In early WoW expansions, Valor Points were a currency used to purchase PvE armor. Here is how the Valor Point vendor looked like back in MoP / Cataclysm. Back then, we had all sorts of vendors, selling gear for Honor, Conquest, Badges of Justice, and Valor Points.

Image courtesy of Siggythenomad.

Many players wanted the currency to return in its old form in Shadowlands, but instead, it was re-introduced for upgrading Mythic Dungeon Gear.

Why Valor Point Vendors Are Unlikely to Return

One of the main reasons why we won't see Valor Points return in their old form is because we are able to purchase "Normal difficulty raid gear" through upgradable Covenant Gear in Shadowlands.

Back when Valor Points were used to purchase "Normal raid difficulty PvE gear", there were only Daily Quests that awarded reputation and gold, and of course, there was gear that you could purchase after reaching a certain reputation with the factions. In total, the sources of loot were more limited compared to what we have now.

In Shadowlands, you can get gear from various game modes: PvP, raids, dungeons, the Great Vault, upgradable Covenant gear and even gear from World Quests. If Blizzard added another loot source, Shadowlands would end up being clogged with loot, just like Battle for Azeroth, where the game gave you items literally just by logging in to the game.

Gearing Changes in Patch 9.1

With vast PvP and raid gear changes planned for Patch 9.1, Blizzard wants to focus on differentiating all the types of gear, instead of adding new sources:

• They want PvP gear to scale to a higher item level in PvP because they want PvP items to be the best option for PvP.
• They are introducing powerful bonuses to Sanctum of Domination raid gear so that raid gear is best to use in raids.

Badge of Justice and Valor Points gear from vendors was really cool back then, but their reintroduction in the modern game is extremely unlikely due to Covenant Gear. Would you be willing to sacrifice a loot source for the vendors to return? Let us know in the comments!

[Calysia 229]

You can upgrade Covenant gear to the current "Normal difficulty raid gear" but there is no catch-up mechanism for the next tier...not currently anyways.

[Bobbis 208]

Be a lot cooler if they did. Though they'd need to change the cap and how upgrading works (or give us justice too).

Valor gear back in the day didn't offer all slots, it supplemented some slots like BoE's can now. This is how the upg system is designed to work, but the issue isn't the upgrading as such, it's getting the sodding things to drop in the first place...

[Hypersonic 119]

At least back then didn't need to run

45	Mythic Plus Dungeons (135 Valor Points each) or
120	Epic Callings (50 Valor Points each) or
172	Rare Callings (35 Valor Points each)

for example 6 weapon upgrade (6/12 M+ 2-hand to 12/12)...
This upgradeable gear system worth nothing if you don't have a LOT of time and for me just pure wtf.
The expansion is really f-cked up right now and they every step make it even worse. 

[Laragon 269]

15 hours ago, Hypersonic said:

At least back then didn't need to run

45	Mythic Plus Dungeons (135 Valor Points each) or
120	Epic Callings (50 Valor Points each) or
172	Rare Callings (35 Valor Points each)

for example 6 weapon upgrade (6/12 M+ 2-hand to 12/12)...
This upgradeable gear system worth nothing if you don't have a LOT of time and for me just pure wtf.
The expansion is really f-cked up right now and they every step make it even worse. 

I feel like if this was the plan all along no one would care that it takes so many runs, you would have been doing most them anyways. The "concern" is 9.1 timing. What's the point if 9.1 is coming soon or "is this it" if 9.1 really isn't until June. If the dungeons were "fresh" still, this would seem like a totally awesome "bonus" to running so many mythic+. You'd have to run each dungeon 5-6 times as you worked your way up to keying them at 15 anyways, but they aren't fresh so 45 seems like a chore.

Either way grinding out 45 dungeons to "finish" your weapon slot feels bad, but this is only meant for you to have to fill in a slot or two and they don't expect you to grind every single slot. At some point you get lucky and get a vault reward or a high mythic drop that shortens that grind down.