I just noticed a potential DK change that may affect our utility more than it appears on the surface

[Storm 426]

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Any changes to death knight presences? They are pretty much just passive aura buttons and do nothing to gameplay.
They're exclusive passive bonuses. Some gameplay, though not a lot. But doesn't need to be a lot. (Celestalon)

 

Are they saying no more presences, just a passive buff for each spec? I know 99% of the time we don't have any use for other presences that aren't in our spec, but what about that 1% of the time when we do?

 

No presences means no more switching to blood presence to soak a mechanic, or to taunt the boss for a few hits while the tank is battle res'd.

 

No more tanks switching to frost presence so you don't pass the other tank in threat immediately after a swap.

 

No more switching to unholy presence to run back 15% faster after a wipe.

 

I know they're all minor uses, but they'll all be things we can no longer do if presences become passives.

[Hybrys 199]

Nah, from Celestalon's wording, I think they just mean that they're exclusive to each other, not that they'll be exclusive to each spec.  If they were moved to legit passives instead of 'stances', there wouldn't be the 'Some gameplay' comment.

 

If you are right, though, I don't think it'd be a huge deal.  Sure, the movement speed from UH, but I think losing Blood for PvP would be a good thing, since you're currently balanced around having it up.

[kitsu 55]

ppl whined about how they want presences out so that frost will have to be tougher in pvp, but blizz said they want presences in wod. 

 

they seem to be keeping that one thing that you can get caught in to feel stupid. like is a shaman's lightning shield on, aspect of the win, tank is in unholy to run back after wipe, etc.

[Storm 426]

Sadly I've done that, it's been a while since I've accidentally left unholy presence on when tanking, but that's mostly because I used to do it so often I stopped using unholy presence to run back.

 

I'm also often guilty of switching spec's and forgetting to put up any presence at all.

[kitsu 55]

I'm also often guilty of switching spec's and forgetting to put up any presence at all.

 

thats what gets me when im on my dk. a gray skull should appear over you at all times if you have no presence.

[Hybrys 199]

Sadly I've done that, it's been a while since I've accidentally left unholy presence on when tanking, but that's mostly because I used to do it so often I stopped using unholy presence to run back.

 

I'm also often guilty of switching spec's and forgetting to put up any presence at all.

On classes that have buffs like that (Shaman w/ Lightning Shield, Priest w/ Inner Will/Fire) I always make a WeakAura for the appropriate presence/stance/etc.  Super easy to do!