Neiro 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2014 Hey Guys!I read a lot of things in this Forum (mostly from Akraen) and it helped me improve a lot as mage, so thanks for it in the first place! At the Time, I'm progress raiding HC so I got a question After the last update, where you can upgrade Items 4 times, Is it BiS to go for the 2PC Bonus with gloves + shoulders, or are heroic warforged things fully upgraded better? Did anyone already simulate on this? Thanks for any help! Neiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berlinia 168 Report post Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) Hello NeiroOkay this answer might be abit weird to hear but I would recommend upgrading Heroic Warforged First. This is not necessarily the best stats for your valor, but it happened to me this week that I upgraded my HC weapon and I got an HC WF the next day. Now I am at 0 valor so I can not upgrade it all this weeks making my 500 valor for the double upgrade effectively *thrown away*The reason for this is that in the long run you are more effective with your valor. Now if you have an armory link which I can look on I could recommend which items you should upgrade if you have over 6 HC WF pieces.I am on farm though so that could be a factor influencing my decisions.If you are really not pulling the numbers, do upgrade your weapon first. It is just you also have to consider efficiency over short term performance.Cheers Berlinia Edit: Do you raid 10man or 25man? Edited May 23, 2014 by Berlinia 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sennin 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2014 I think he was asking what pieces are BiS now that the upgrades have changed. eg: before 5.4.8 BiS was 2-piece tier and HC WF for the rest AFAIK BiS has not changed since everything is upgraded. I will leave it to one of the more thorough posters to confirm with the maths if necessary. As for upgrading, I completely agree with Berlinia on the upgrading priority. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
durrtygoodz 60 Report post Posted May 23, 2014 I think he was asking what pieces are BiS now that the upgrades have changed. eg: before 5.4.8 BiS was 2-piece tier and HC WF for the rest AFAIK BiS has not changed since everything is upgraded. I will leave it to one of the more thorough posters to confirm with the maths if necessary. As for upgrading, I completely agree with Berlinia on the upgrading priority. You are right. Everything is upgradable the same and scales the same. BiS is the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neiro 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2014 Thanks for the quick Answers =) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akraen 230 Report post Posted May 23, 2014 it's worth breaking 2pc at 85% haste if you have 28%+ crit if you can get there... good luck getting there, only a very specific gear set can unless you're a goblin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berlinia 168 Report post Posted May 23, 2014 Proof that Akraen is still lurking around!!! <3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neiro 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2014 Thanks for the answer Akraen, I think I'm around ~ 65% haste so, a long way to go =D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites