wow Torghast 5-Star Tip: First Floor Anima Power Reset and More Fishing

[Starym 3,800]

 

We're back here again with another Torghast tip (it's been a while), which will help you 5-star the higher layers (including layer 12, which has a pretty hefty suggested item level coming in at 252). This tip should save you quite a bit of time if you're going for those high-scores.

As noted by both MiekRussPls and CapnRamza, you can actually reset the first floor Anima power, but it will take a little bit of time. The floor 1 starting Anima powers reset once you clear the first floor, but they are also shared throughout ALL layers of the same wing. This means you can simply enter a low level layer (like, for example, and the only one that makes sense, layer 1), check out the floor 1 power, speed-clear the easy content to floor 2 and then exit. You repeat this process until you get a really good/run-defining one, exit the lower layer and head to the maximum one, with the same Anima power waiting for you there.

You don't necessarily have to go through the lower/higher layer combo, you can do all of this on just layer 12 as well, but it's quite a bit faster if you do run the easier ones while fishing for that perfect starting power. You can also take it one step further from here, once you have your good power all set up, you run your highest layer and if you don't get any more good powers during floor 1, you do not move on to 2, but instead just reset. Your pre-set floor 1 starting power will be waiting for you, and you can continue fishing for that awesome 2nd or 3rd combo, while you're still on floor 1! And once you get it, you're all set and simply continue through the tower.

Here's the more detailed explanation from CapnRamza:

[solitha 84]

If the system was changed to not make it easy to fish for a good first power... couldn't this be seen as an exploit? I'm not really certain.

If not, I wonder if individuals can fish on their own in a solo queue, then group up when each person has a good starter. Might have to try that.

[Starym 3,800]

4 hours ago, solitha said:

If the system was changed to not make it easy to fish for a good first power... couldn't this be seen as an exploit? I'm not really certain.

If not, I wonder if individuals can fish on their own in a solo queue, then group up when each person has a good starter. Might have to try that.

Would be impossible to know which power the other players get though? Since it's spec-specific? Also I don't think it's an exploit really, you are allowed to break off your run whenever you want and they decided to then reset the first floor power so... They may change that but I wouldn't call it anything near an exploit.

[solitha 84]

17 hours ago, Starym said:

Would be impossible to know which power the other players get though? Since it's spec-specific? Also I don't think it's an exploit really, you are allowed to break off your run whenever you want and they decided to then reset the first floor power so... They may change that but I wouldn't call it anything near an exploit.

I mean... that's easily communicated. I was thinking more along the lines of my husband and I who always run together, fishing separately, and would we have those powers we fished for solo, still there when we grouped up.

But nothing's stopping a player from fishing up a good power and then LFG along with mentioning they have a good initial power ready. Again, assuming it's the same when you group up.

As far as if it's an exploit... it depends on the intent behind the change. Previously you could just stick your nose in the door, take a peek, nope out and reset. Was that causing a server problem? If that's the issue, then this is fine; it throttles the load a bit and winnows out some people who don't care enough to do a low-level floor clear.

But if the issue is that Blizz really didn't want us fishing for an "optimal" starter power, then it becomes unintended behavior. Changing that first power is likely meant more to help people who are legitimately failing their runs. Of course you're allowed to quit a run whenever you want. But doing so specifically for this reason starts to sound like "creative use of game mechanics" which is euphemistic for exploitation.

Again, I'm far from certain... enough so that I'm considering doing this myself.

[Starym 3,800]

8 hours ago, solitha said:

I mean... that's easily communicated. I was thinking more along the lines of my husband and I who always run together, fishing separately, and would we have those powers we fished for solo, still there when we grouped up.

But nothing's stopping a player from fishing up a good power and then LFG along with mentioning they have a good initial power ready. Again, assuming it's the same when you group up.

As far as if it's an exploit... it depends on the intent behind the change. Previously you could just stick your nose in the door, take a peek, nope out and reset. Was that causing a server problem? If that's the issue, then this is fine; it throttles the load a bit and winnows out some people who don't care enough to do a low-level floor clear.

But if the issue is that Blizz really didn't want us fishing for an "optimal" starter power, then it becomes unintended behavior. Changing that first power is likely meant more to help people who are legitimately failing their runs. Of course you're allowed to quit a run whenever you want. But doing so specifically for this reason starts to sound like "creative use of game mechanics" which is euphemistic for exploitation.

Again, I'm far from certain... enough so that I'm considering doing this myself.

Actually I think the previous reset only worked for Twisting Corridors? I could be wrong, but I THINK regular Torghast had fixed power setups for the first floor?

[solitha 84]

On 7/22/2021 at 4:09 PM, Starym said:

Actually I think the previous reset only worked for Twisting Corridors? I could be wrong, but I THINK regular Torghast had fixed power setups for the first floor?

Ugh. Can't say; I've slept since then.