wow Two In-Game Paintings Desexualized in Patch 9.1.5

[Calin 50]

5 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

Victim blaming, how cliche

he isn't victim blaming, he's raising a good point.
You can't completely control what other people do, but you do have power over yourself.
You COULD be the first to take action to prevent a bad situation. I'm not saying you should ever need to, but you could.
 

[Sabejnos 10]

All good, all saved. World is saved now.

[SidonisAntares 290]

5 hours ago, Calin said:

he isn't victim blaming, he's raising a good point.
You can't completely control what other people do, but you do have power over yourself.
You COULD be the first to take action to prevent a bad situation. I'm not saying you should ever need to, but you could.
 

Telling people they're inviting trouble by dressing sexy is removing at the very least some of the responsibility from the person who perpetrates the abuse, which is what blaming the victim means.

If I wear a nice watch, did I invite you to try and steal it? No. It's entirely your fault for lack of morals and/or control over your own impulses.

[Gortan 38]

15 hours ago, Prophet001 said:

It does mean that you personally have significantly invited them to travel that road in their mind. Which ultimately leads to some people turning thoughts into reality.

You may consider someone's piece of clothing as such an invitation but the wearer of that piece of clothing may not share your sentiment. This is where your argument falls flat.

[Migol 433]

This is...stupid.

Removing "Sexy Paintings" is a zero budget move that not only ignores the real issues (real life abuse, contract issues, bad behaivor by leadership, etc etc).    It also confuses the idea that a "sexually stimulating" image is wrong with the fact of a sexually abusive/harasssing action being wrong.

A painting can be sexy.   That's absolutely fine.    A real life woman (or man) can dress up in a sexually appealing way if they feel the urge to, that's their right as long as it doesn't interfere with the rights of others or legal guidelines (IE going nude near children as an extreme example).     This sort of censorship though feels like pandering to some hardcore zealotry to cover women up in burkas or something.

[darkgreenwax 412]

3 hours ago, Gortan said:

You may consider someone's piece of clothing as such an invitation but the wearer of that piece of clothing may not share your sentiment. This is where your argument falls flat.

Yeah, for real.

People are allowed to express themselves through clothing. If you get tempted by what you see, that's on YOU.

[Starym 3,800]

6 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

Telling people they're inviting trouble by dressing sexy is removing at the very least some of the responsibility from the person who perpetrates the abuse, which is what blaming the victim means.

If I wear a nice watch, did I invite you to try and steal it? No. It's entirely your fault for lack of morals and/or control over your own impulses.

That's not what's being said though (at least how I read it). In your comparison, yes you are aware that wearing obviously expensive things raises the likelyhood of you being robbed. This doesn't remove ANY blame from the robber, nor does it add blame to you - you simply either didn't take that factor into consideration or you did and decided it was worth the (very small) risk. You should never EVER have to think about what you wear in a perfect world, but you know where you live and it's your choice whether to let that affect what you do. There are awful, terrible people out there that react in certain ways to certain things (aka the watch) and you can either ignore that and have a better life if nothing happens to you because of it or you can let the possibility of something bad happening make you not wear the watch/conceal it. It's a shitty shitty tradeoff but it's reality. I honestly don't know what I'd do personally if put in that position.

[Calin 50]

3 hours ago, Starym said:

That's not what's being said though (at least how I read it). In your comparison, yes you are aware that wearing obviously expensive things raises the likelyhood of you being robbed. This doesn't remove ANY blame from the robber, nor does it add blame to you - you simply either didn't take that factor into consideration or you did and decided it was worth the (very small) risk. You should never EVER have to think about what you wear in a perfect world, but you know where you live and it's your choice whether to let that affect what you do. There are awful, terrible people out there that react in certain ways to certain things (aka the watch) and you can either ignore that and have a better life if nothing happens to you because of it or you can let the possibility of something bad happening make you not wear the watch/conceal it. It's a shitty shitty tradeoff but it's reality. I honestly don't know what I'd do personally if put in that position.

Thank you for actually getting my point. 🙂
I completely agree that you shouldn't ever have to make that choice, but it IS the only preemptive move you can do to avoid ever even ending up in the shitty situation, and therefor worth considering regardless.
The person violating you is obviously fully to blame, but your choices can be the difference between you or someone else being the victim

[Fedaygin 4]

On 9/16/2021 at 9:53 PM, Calysia said:

Massive waste of time...

It sure is.. By axing all these dumb not important changes at Azeroth done in past couple / few months would've given precious time for developing better things. Ones that actually affect gameplay, improve it's QOL (don't mean simplifying it cause enough already) & more. 
@Devylknyght wrote: "Remember when they changed the /whistle emote because it was "offensive"?
^^ What :o It's been removed.. That's messed up & now even more happy (also very sad) to have 1x more reason added to bucket of reasons about why should not give $ to Blizz via Merch store or WoW Sub :/ Had return planned, but after seen these many mind boggling changes.. That plan got axed & staying with Hearthstone & Simplified Moba (sadly it is) known as Heroes of the Storm.

Agree on what was said by other person: "Hope that can still /spit to Illidan if didn't drop em shiny glaives. Or to Rag if no precious mace. Mean that there would be text ref. as always used to when do it to npc or human (or alien) controlled character. Yes i know that sadly woke pc warriors won by having it removed from PvP. Dream of normal future without this recent crap & that Blizz would some way get new leader who reverts em all..  

Edited September 22, 2021 by Fedaygin
Clarified things.