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Dragonflight Pre-Patch Class Tuning: November 1st

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3 hours ago, Laptique said:

You are delusional. A nerf was expected and I would've been completely ok with it. But not by 25%, are you insane?! No other class has ever been nerfed by 25% on the live-server before! They could've nerfed the talents, or nerfed us in PvP only. On top of that, they've nerfed us by that much without thinking about the Covenant abilities, which will be gone in Dragonflight. Enhancement hasn't been S-Tier for the last 7 years - not even A tier!

Warlocks have 100k shields on top of their 100k HP, and 1shot you with DoTs and Incinerates... WW Monks EASILY dominate Enhancement Shamans on the DPS Meter and in PvP... Those two classes have been top since... forever. And you wanna tell ME that the Enhancement Shamis deserved to get nerfed by that much...? Stfu

Is that so? Because I distinctly remember Demonology being nerfed by the same 25% on every spell in 6.2. Why? Same thing - overperforming, even compared to two other specs. Spoiler for whiny kids that yell "SPEC IS DEAD" like you: even after which 2 out of 13 HFC Mythic progression bosses had Demo as top warlock spec, including arguably the hardest one of the raid.

And if you're saying Enh wasn't S tier the entire season 3 and 4 - maybe you should get out of LFR a bit more, see what players that CAN press buttons are capable of? I'm talking only personal damage btw, if I'd start to count in the Windfury increases for someone like Arms Warrior or any Rogue spec, hardly a single class will come close on ST gain for one player addded (outside of special cases like MM/Fire on Sylvanas) - which is the absolute dominant damage profile for SL raids, including Sylvanas and Jailer.

So, maybe you should "stfu" instead of addressing me with your baseless fantasies? 

PS: Extra laugh at "top spec WW monks". You sure you're not reading your charts upside down? Don't answer, I know you do.

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3 hours ago, tentonic said:

So when is this patch going into effect?

With each region's weekly reset (as it says in the first sentence of the article 😄 )

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1 hour ago, Starym said:

With each region's weekly reset (as it says in the first sentence of the article 😄 )

I'm guessing not this reset? All i remember is that it's Tuesday at some point haha. 

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On 11/1/2022 at 11:48 PM, Teufel said:

Is that so? Because I distinctly remember Demonology being nerfed by the same 25% on every spell in 6.2. Why? Same thing - overperforming, even compared to two other specs. Spoiler for whiny kids that yell "SPEC IS DEAD" like you: even after which 2 out of 13 HFC Mythic progression bosses had Demo as top warlock spec, including arguably the hardest one of the raid.

And if you're saying Enh wasn't S tier the entire season 3 and 4 - maybe you should get out of LFR a bit more, see what players that CAN press buttons are capable of? I'm talking only personal damage btw, if I'd start to count in the Windfury increases for someone like Arms Warrior or any Rogue spec, hardly a single class will come close on ST gain for one player addded (outside of special cases like MM/Fire on Sylvanas) - which is the absolute dominant damage profile for SL raids, including Sylvanas and Jailer.

So, maybe you should "stfu" instead of addressing me with your baseless fantasies? 

PS: Extra laugh at "top spec WW monks". You sure you're not reading your charts upside down? Don't answer, I know you do.

„Kids like you“, „you should get out of LFR“ - man *filtered* off with your stupid assumptions, will you…? NO OTHER CLASS has ever got nerfed by a flat 25% on all their damage! NONE! Also go right now and check every single DPS rankings of all 3 raids, from patch 9.0 up until Pre-Patch, and tell me where Enhancement was „S-Tier“. The only Classes dominating were Warlocks, Monks and Druids at the beginning… Have you forgotten how absolutely broken WW was with their „spin to win“? Or Affliction/Demo? Or Balance with their Convoke? Method even raided Castle Nathria with a full group of Boomkins, spamming Convoke… And Warlocks have always been top-tier in both PvE and PvP. Enhancement first became strong after 9.2/9.2.5 because of tier sets AFTER YEARS, and even then it was top on Warcraftlogs only in 1-2 boss fights in all 3 raids. Check Wowhead, Icy-Veins, Warcraftlogs - whatever you want. And tell me that I‘m wrong. And what I said was for Raids only! Mythic+ is even worse!

In M+ from Season 1 to 3, Enhancement was at the bottom, and in Season 4 in the middle. Before Shadowlands 9.2 the spec was DEAD! People would think you‘re trolling if you chose Enhancement over Elemental in PvE. Man you have no idea what you‘re talking about.
Again, stfu!

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