Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted October 8, 2014 With the generalization of Pandemic to all classes, is Shadowflame now also affected by it? "All periodic effects" are supposed to be affected so... This is mentioned and explained in my Demo guide coming out today. Shadowflame isn't affected in a traditional sense without the 2pc bonus at level 100. With the 2pc and a 3rd charge, you can technically get an 8 or 9 second stack of the 2 stack if you have it land when Shadowflame is at 2 seconds remaining because you have 3 charges. This is because you only have 2 charges by themselves and the ideal way to play is to have your 2nd HoG land with as little time as possible to maximize your total uptime of Shadowflame. Without the 2pc bonus at level 100, you'd have to rely on the random procs of the T16 4pc bonus to give you a random HoG and you already have 2 banked charges, which means you weren't playing correctly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted October 9, 2014 MYTHIC STARTS TUESDAY, THE 14TH! GET UP TO SPEED NOW! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nytemare 2 Report post Posted October 12, 2014 MYTHIC STARTS TUESDAY, THE 14TH! GET UP TO SPEED NOW! Can't wait. With snapshotting gone, think it still good to keep 4pc destro set? or maybe drop it to just 2pc (due to 2pc having a higher proc now), and going with non-tier gear to get more Cirt/Mastery? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orthios 271 Report post Posted October 12, 2014 Can't wait. With snapshotting gone, think it still good to keep 4pc destro set? or maybe drop it to just 2pc (due to 2pc having a higher proc now), and going with non-tier gear to get more Cirt/Mastery? The 4pc will still be good for snapshotting a chaos bolt for the extra 15% crit chance -> 15% extra damage. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zilthy 36 Report post Posted October 12, 2014 Can't wait. With snapshotting gone, think it still good to keep 4pc destro set? or maybe drop it to just 2pc (due to 2pc having a higher proc now), and going with non-tier gear to get more Cirt/Mastery? Even though losing immo shapshotting, 15% bonus crit on chaos bolts is nothing to sneeze at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nytemare 2 Report post Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) Even though losing immo shapshotting, 15% bonus crit on chaos bolts is nothing to sneeze at. Yeah was thinking bonus would still be good, but also thinking with the extra crit/mastery you could gain from non-tier pieces maybe it could out weight the set bonus. Guess not, thanks Edited October 12, 2014 by Nytemare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrex 1 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 Current sim's are showing Haste > Crit > Int > Mastery for destruction in t16H and have noticed Zag has already swapped to this. Is this actually a thing or were you just trying it out yourself Zag? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladMTL 1 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 hey, thanks for the posts guys! loved aff now its gone ... just for a while i hope o/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gahhda 95 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 Current sim's are showing Haste > Crit > Int > Mastery for destruction in t16H and have noticed Zag has already swapped to this. Is this actually a thing or were you just trying it out yourself Zag? Scale Factors are irrelevant to what is good to stack. It tells you what the next 100 rating of stat will get you. Haste is only that high because it has less than half the amount of haste as crit/mastery. When all stats are equal, it's clearly crit >= mastery > mult > int > haste > vers. This also doesn't include aoe or cleave, where mastery is the clear winner. Destruction should be using a mastery/crit build for 6.0.2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liquidsteel 279 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 Is the Destruction APL all sorted now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gahhda 95 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 Is the Destruction APL all sorted now? At 90, yes, at 100, not quite. I need to further test trinket usage at 100, determine which procs are worth dumping for (likely int/sp/crit/mastery) and update how it spends embers. Since all you can get at 90 are int procs, I figure it's w/e. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrex 1 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 THanks heaps ghadda ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gahhda 95 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 Before you talk about 'stat weights' from simc, please read: https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/7275-scale-factors-and-you-an-explanation-of-stat-weights/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 Current sim's are showing Haste > Crit > Int > Mastery for destruction in t16H and have noticed Zag has already swapped to this. Is this actually a thing or were you just trying it out yourself Zag? I'm not Destruction. Quit stalking me! If you looked, I'm actually Haste >= Mastery > Crit for Demonology which is what I'm doing now and in 6.0. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrex 1 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 I do apologize. I saw the sims, stalked you. then obviously didnt look at spec. Sorry oh great one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 If only I could have gotten you to stalk me with my Agility/Spirit/Parry build. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrex 1 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 I stalk you and your gang of warlocks every odd day. Im sure you could trick me in the near future. Preemptive, Bastard! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vaeevictiss 17 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 so what do all these gems and enchants turn into tomorrow? The ones with hit/exp/int Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 Expertise Mastery turns into Haste Mastery. Just leave them be. Int/Mastery stays. Int/Haste stays. Int/Crit stays. Int/Hit becomes Int Crit I believe. You shouldn't have to do any gem shopping if you followed my models and the guides here at Icy-Veins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrex 1 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 beta.wowhead.com and type in the gem names and item names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladMTL 1 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Warlock Agony and Unstable Affliction damage reduced by 10%. lovely ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,982 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Not a lot going to play Affliction anyways. Remember, this tuning is for level 100, not 90. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alkeir 1 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Any new demonology playstyle tips? The last time I played demo was in raiding in 5.3, and I really wasn't that good. The guides I used for reference were mostly Evrelia's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alkeir 1 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 Also, what is the aura name for Grimoire of Synergy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nytemare 2 Report post Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Also, what is the aura name for Grimoire of Synergy? read this by Locky: https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/7227-60-warlock-weakauras-all-specs/ he has it listed and even a WA set up for it already. Edited October 14, 2014 by Nytemare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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