Staff of Herding / Whimsyshire

[Troels 9]

Might want to change the recommendations for getting leroics chinbone, since it's easier/just as easy to get it in adventure mode, there's a waypoint just outside the manor.

PS. just got my gibbering gemstone, took way too long!

[Razeth 0]

Is Chiltara a random spawn rather than a guaranteed spawn? I've run that place a few times and not even seen Chiltara

Sorry for the necro, just not sure where else to ask.

Edited July 4, 2017 by Razeth

[PaasHaaS 81]

10 minutes ago, Razeth said:

Is Chiltara a random spawn rather than a guaranteed spawn? I've run that place a few times and not even seen Chiltara

Sorry for the necro, just not sure where else to ask.

She is indeed not a guaranteed spawn. Getting her item to drop was easily the worst part of my quest to acquiring the staff. Good luck!

Make sure to run to the end of the caverns though, as she usually pops up at the very end of the cave.

Edited July 4, 2017 by PaasHaaS

[Razeth 0]

Just now, PaasHaaS said:

She is indeed not a guaranteed spawn. Getting her item to drop was easily the worst part of my quest to acquiring the staff. Good luck!

Ok, thanks for confirming. Is it better to do it in story or adventure? I'm running Adventure at the moment at T1, does difficulty matter? May drop to Normal just to speed farm :)

[PaasHaaS 81]

2 hours ago, Razeth said:

Ok, thanks for confirming. Is it better to do it in story or adventure? I'm running Adventure at the moment at T1, does difficulty matter? May drop to Normal just to speed farm :)

I don't think it matters for the drop rate, just whatever is easiest for you.

If I remember correctly I did it on Master difficulty in Adventure mode, using the nearest checkpoint.  Caverns of Frost shares a spawn with Icefall Caves, so if you see that one pop up you already know you can restart as well.

[alpas 0]

It looks like Black Mushroom was removed from the game for some reason? It's no longer listed as an ingredient for Staff on the battle.net page. [Upd: Nevermind, i just checked in game, and it's still needed for the recipe.]

As a side note, i remember farming for that damned Gibbering Gemstone for 7 hours straight until it finally dropped. That was about the most degrading gaming experience in my whole life. Good times!

Also, the rainbow goblin opens portal to that very level, but with actual magical loot involved (the regular Whimsyshire has about the same loot as any other area [aside from small chance for Hamburger], i just went and checked that after the goblin). 

Edited September 5, 2017 by alpas

[Sikolik 5]

I found the staff of herding on non-season. And i found the black mushroom chamber on season, but the mushroom wasn't there. The room was exactly the same. Can i still get the staff in season?

 

[mkp0203 0]

As of November 19, 2017.

I just got all ingredients (including the required Black Mushroom) within a few hours of casual farming. For Caverns of Frost, just load into the game, check the Act 3 Bridge of Korsick. ONLY go if there is NO bounty, OR if the bounty tells you to explore the Caverns of Frost. Otherwise, it is the Icefall Caves. Makes farming much easier. Also, for the liquid rainbow, when you enter the game, check the waypoint and ONLY go if there is a bounty called "Find the Mysterious Chest" or something along those lines. Can't remember exact wording. Following these two steps for the Liquid Rainbow and Gemstone make this much easier.

My one question is, is the Staff of Herding consumed upon entering Whymsishire? Can I just use the staff endlessly? Also, can we get the Cosmic Wings here? I want to bring a friend that is offline but I want to go now haha... Don't want to lose the opportunity to bring him along.

Edited November 20, 2017 by mkp0203

[Valks 2,375]

1 hour ago, mkp0203 said:

My one question is, is the Staff of Herding consumed upon entering Whymsishire? Can I just use the staff endlessly? Also, can we get the Cosmic Wings here? I want to bring a friend that is offline but I want to go now haha... Don't want to lose the opportunity to bring him along.

No, you can't get cosmic wings using the staff. You can only get them from the portal goblin. The portrait drops from the Staff portal.

You can keep using the staff.

[Spectreniner 0]

On 11/19/2017 at 7:11 PM, mkp0203 said:

As of November 19, 2017.

I just got all ingredients (including the required Black Mushroom) within a few hours of casual farming. For Caverns of Frost, just load into the game, check the Act 3 Bridge of Korsick. ONLY go if there is NO bounty, OR if the bounty tells you to explore the Caverns of Frost. Otherwise, it is the Icefall Caves. Makes farming much easier. Also, for the liquid rainbow, when you enter the game, check the waypoint and ONLY go if there is a bounty called "Find the Mysterious Chest" or something along those lines. Can't remember exact wording. Following these two steps for the Liquid Rainbow and Gemstone make this much easier.

My one question is, is the Staff of Herding consumed upon entering Whymsishire? Can I just use the staff endlessly? Also, can we get the Cosmic Wings here? I want to bring a friend that is offline but I want to go now haha... Don't want to lose the opportunity to bring him along.

Nope, staff is not consumed.  Once you have the Staff and can open it up, you can go pretty much anytime you want.

[Guest Forumn Newbie]

Hi All,

I have been farming the Gibbering Gemstone for months now and in addition killed Chiltara probably pushing on 100/150 times and no drop. keep getting the same loot but no stone. Has the location of where it drops changed? I am loosing all hope here. I am doubting what I am doing.

Character I am using is a Necro and only up to the quest which goes thought the Bridge of Korsick (ie the rest of the story line has not been played). I go to bounty mode on Normal and only search for Caverns of Frost (if not there reload)... Second level and Kill the monster... 

Any reassurance that I am doing the right thing would be good!

[Guest Sleepybear]

It still drops.. Took me a few 100 tries to get the drop. Do it on highest possible torment and it double's as lousy DB-farming... 

[Valks 2,375]

On 10/12/2017 at 5:15 PM, Guest Sleepybear said:

It still drops.. Took me a few 100 tries to get the drop. Do it on highest possible torment and it double's as lousy DB-farming... 

Silver linings!

[Stoise 0]

With s12 i gave up farming for this, never got the gibbering and took forever to get other items. This season I must have been extremely lucky, farmed all items incl staff recipie in under 2 hours. Did switch between 2 characters after a few tries.

[Kyote 0]

Another place it can spawn also.

[Guest Gem still drops]

So I can confirm that the gem still drops for any who were wondering. Zelusa and Chiltara can both spawn in the same place, or just one or the other. I tried for about 2 hours on TXIII, nothing, then about 2 hours on Normal, which is where it dropped. 0% MF. 

[Guest Kwin333]

about 3 hours to get all the pieces. ported in, and to my surprise! nothing, am i missing something in here? this zone is pretty uneventful. drops sucked. i got in here in Season 16 through Goblin portal, drops were much much better. did Bliz nerf the hell out of this for Season 17?

[Yolo 40]

1 hour ago, Guest Kwin333 said:

about 3 hours to get all the pieces. ported in, and to my surprise! nothing, am i missing something in here? this zone is pretty uneventful. drops sucked. i got in here in Season 16 through Goblin portal, drops were much much better. did Bliz nerf the hell out of this for Season 17?

Although they look alike, Whimsyshire is not the same as Whimsydale. The former is opened with this staff by the Ghost of the cow King, and can spawn Sir William, who drops rainbow portrait, while the latter is opened by the Rainbow Goblin, and can spawn Princess Lillian, who drops Cosmic Wings. It's two separate instance, with the same tileset. 

There weren't any notes if they nerfed it, but keep in mind difficulty does have an impact on the drops. 

[Guest H3LM3T]

Yeah when u say the bottom right corner of the map for cathedral, why does the map kinda show the left?

[Oinkus 0]

After 100s of attempts I got the Gibbering Gem from Chiltara in Season 17 and made the Staff !

[Guest Waste of time...]

After farming for the materials for the staff including recipe it was really disappointing when entering. Apart from the achi's it literally dropped nothing, so in my opinion you are better off looking for rainbow goblins than running this. Presents just explode into confetti, mushrooms that would normally drop deaths breaths just pop and the clouds that would normally drop a mix of gold and gems rarely drop anything, pointless ...

 

[Undeadmandy23 0]

On 1/17/2017 at 1:49 PM, NecroVoid said:

okay only took 2 days and got the Gibbering Gemstone. It will be legendary and glow orange unless you have it to where the names pop up for the items but will still be orange. did it on normal so its confirmed you can get it on normal. ?

Undeadmandy23

Hi I play my dabio 3 on my switch I’m trying to find it. Do you have to be a higher level to get it or lower level

 

On 1/17/2017 at 1:49 PM, NecroVoid said:

okay only took 2 days and got the Gibbering Gemstone. It will be legendary and glow orange unless you have it to where the names pop up for the items but will still be orange. did it on normal so its confirmed you can get it on normal. ?

 

[Guest Tyrsa]

On 10/8/2019 at 8:30 AM, Guest Waste of time... said:

After farming for the materials for the staff including recipe it was really disappointing when entering. Apart from the achi's it literally dropped nothing, so in my opinion you are better off looking for rainbow goblins than running this. Presents just explode into confetti, mushrooms that would normally drop deaths breaths just pop and the clouds that would normally drop a mix of gold and gems rarely drop anything, pointless ...

Once you get the portrait frame, absolutely.  Until then, assuming you want it, you keep running it.  Thank goodness the staff isn't consumed.

Just like the goblin version is the only place to get the wings, but that's worse since you have to keep finding another goblin.

 

FWIW I got the Gibbering Gemstone long before I got the plans.  Izual was being uncooperative.

[Guest Stronglkbull#1129]

[ originally posted on us<dot>forums<dot>blizzard<dot>com/en/d3/t/gibbering-gemstone/1258 ]

I have read the horror stories of people trying to get the Gibbering Gemstone. One person claimed 537 attempts and said they were about to go insane.

I wondered if there is some hidden enabler to getting it quicker, so I got all of the other items first including the plans from Izual. I trained the blacksmith with the plans, and put all four of the other items in my inventory. 

Also, being lazy, I didn't want to repeat going to the Frost Caverns over and over not to even find Chiltara.

I like the following instructions as an outline, however I searched for a lot of other pages to make the other parts go better. Liquid Rainbow was a one shot using someone else's instructions.

www.eurogamer<dot>net/articles/2018-11-01-diablo-3-ultimate-evil-guide?page=16

I noticed that a lot of people were quoting a 5% drop rate off Chiltara, with most people seeming to not even know how that number was calculated. This got me thinking that if you do it right, then it's not 5% (or much worse).

To paraphrase Pursoe's quote above:

... look at the Bounties for Act III. There are 2 and only 2 Bounties you want to look for:

1. Clear the Caverns of Frost
2. Kill Chiltara

I got #1, and cleared both levels, no Chiltara! Ugh! Then, I clicked the "Fields of Slaughter" portal at the very end to leave a different way on a lark, without resetting by using "Leave Game". And then, surprise, Chiltara seemed to jump out of nowhere, and she dropped the Gibbering Gemstone.

So, maybe Chiltara is always there in the Caverns of Frost, just waiting to give everyone a Gibbering Gemstone. Maybe Chiltara only drops it at the end like that. I would be interested in other folks' experience to see if I actually just got lucky or not.

My hunch is that it is not a very low drop rate. Blizzard wants you to have fun in Whimyshire.

So, try all the tips combined:

1. Get everything else done, putting all the items in your inventory for the attemtps.

2. Only take the "Clear the Caverns of Frost" Bounty in Act III.

3. Clear everything in the cave, taking every item. If Chiltara doesn't appear like with me, go all the way to the end of level 2, and click "The Fields of Slaughter" portal to see if Chiltara was hiding.

Is this a 100% method for the Gibbering Gemstone?

Maybe Chiltara wasn't hiding behind the portal stone. I don't know. It all happened so fast, but looking back it seems to be something fun that Blizzard would do to make it cool (pun intended).

[Deadset 108]

Thanks for sharing your experiences with us! It's fascinating how the hunt for the Staff of Herding has changed over time and with changes in the expansion. For many long-term players the Staff hunt was over back in vanilla, but I can imagine a newer player can be overwhelmed by the amount of old, and sometimes conflicting, information on how to farm one in 2020.