Leap/Earthquake Barbarian

[Guest Holdmybeer]

I've been tinkering with this build a bit... the mess I've made can be seen here. ;)

What I'm wondering is why the 300% WW bonus from the skull grasp doesn't show up on my details screen under offense? All I see is the 15% from my boots.

Fwiw, this current tweak of the build has proven interesting. T13 rifts, bounties and 62 GRs are cake. Which isn't awful considering only one augment, not all ancient, and fairly poor rolls on most of the gear.

[Valks 2,375]

13 hours ago, Guest Holdmybeer said:

I've been tinkering with this build a bit... the mess I've made can be seen here. ;)

Will leave this for @Deadset to give his opinion on! I'm not quite good enough to be passing judgement :p

[Guest Kiranos]

Thanks for this build. Really impressive, and so fun to play. T3 to T13 in 6 days, pretty happy :D

 

- Why the Dread Iron belt ? I don't see ground stomp in the build...

- Are Focus and Restraint 50% bonus cumulative ? And it seems the bonus doesn't show in the stats... or am I reading wrong ?

- Maybe it's because that I'm playing only in GR60-65, but I was not fully satisfied with the Furnace. However when I switched to In-Geom, I could literally spam Threatening shout. So after an elite pack you could jump like a maniac for 10 sec, with Avalanche and Earthquake continually beeing trigerred. So with enough luck you could go quickly from an elite pack to another, while killing everything in your path. What do you think ?

[Valks 2,375]

11 hours ago, Guest Kiranos said:

- Why the Dread Iron belt ? I don't see ground stomp in the build...

This is a mistake, I believe. Will let the writers know.

11 hours ago, Guest Kiranos said:

- Are Focus and Restraint 50% bonus cumulative ? And it seems the bonus doesn't show in the stats... or am I reading wrong ?

If both buffs are active, you get a 2.25x damage multiplier.

11 hours ago, Guest Kiranos said:

Maybe it's because that I'm playing only in GR60-65, but I was not fully satisfied with the Furnace. However when I switched to In-Geom, I could literally spam Threatening shout. So after an elite pack you could jump like a maniac for 10 sec, with Avalanche and Earthquake continually beeing trigerred. So with enough luck you could go quickly from an elite pack to another, while killing everything in your path. What do you think ?

At lower rift levels, this can definitely work. The problem is, you don't always have elite packs, there is running time etc. You can be in a position where your In-geom does absolutely nothing for 85% of the rift. Also remember that it does nothing to the rift guardian.

[SangFroidy 3]

Dread Iron is there for the Avalanche bonus, read all the stats etc.

[Deadset 108]

Yup, Dread Iron is strictly included for the Avalanche damage bonus! :)

[Valks 2,375]

On 10/3/2016 at 0:59 AM, Guest Kiranos said:

- Why the Dread Iron belt ? I don't see ground stomp in the build...

See above for an answer to this :) I didn't know it had a damage increase to Avalanche!

[Valks 2,375]

On 10/3/2016 at 5:23 PM, SangFroidy said:

Dread Iron is there for the Avalanche bonus, read all the stats etc.

It seems the damage increase doesn't show on the armoury tooltip, unless I'm blind :(

[Vertimar 0]

First, thanks Deadset for these excellent, well written guides--they are a genuine asset to this community--sorry if that sounds corny but it's true!

Until getting hooked on the seasons concept in S7, I've been a casual Diablo fan until now so forgive me if this is a dumb question.  Was there a nerf to this build in the last couple months?  Looking at the non-season leaderboard, I see that leap/eq is on top, but the run was back in August.  It seems like all of the RECENT runs on the top of the leaderboard are either furious charge/IK or frenzy/thorns.  I didn't think there have been any updates since then so what's up with that?

I was strongly considering leap/eq for S8, but has it fallen from favor?...otherwise, why hasn't anyone been pushing higher rifts with this build since August?

Anyway, I want to go Barbarian again in S8, but I was furious charge/IK last season and I'm looking for a change.

Thanks again Deadset for the great guides!

[Valks 2,375]

12 hours ago, Vertimar said:

I was strongly considering leap/eq for S8, but has it fallen from favor?...otherwise, why hasn't anyone been pushing higher rifts with this build since August?

It might have just been much easier to itemise for at the start of the season - I'm not 100% sure though.

[Vertimar 0]

On ‎10‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 10:02 PM, Blainie said:

It might have just been much easier to itemise for at the start of the season - I'm not 100% sure though.

Thanks for the reply Blainie...I'm referring to the non-season leaderboard.  At the time of my post, leap/eq held the top 2 spots with runs way back in mid august.  If raekors/IK is better for high GR, why did it take so long to over take it?  Also, with 2 months for gem leveling, more augments, etc., wouldn't those same leap/eq players have had the chance to improve their runs?

Anyway, this was leading me to wonder if there wasn't some kind of "mini nerf" on leap/eq to explain that.

Thanks again

[Valks 2,375]

On 10/18/2016 at 4:06 PM, Vertimar said:

Anyway, this was leading me to wonder if there wasn't some kind of "mini nerf" on leap/eq to explain that.

Completely mis-read and missed the non-season part, I'm really sorry.

Raekor's/IK is better for group play, since Barbs generally fill much more supporting roles. I believe our recommendations of GRift potential is focused entirely on group play, rather than solo. 

Also, remember that those that nailed the top ranks might have just got a perfect rift, basically. Rift fishing is 75% of the battle towards getting rank 1, honestly.

[Deadset 108]

Heya! There were no nerfs to the Leapquake playstyle. The slow creep of Raekor/IK that you have observed is due to the fact that it excels at fishing, and will do massive damage in the right circumstances. Raekor will fail a great deal of its attempts (hence the slow creep), but it will beat Leapquake on the top end. On average though, MotE builds are more reliable and will see more rifts through.

High ranking players recognize the Raekor potential, and thus you see them at the top of the charts. Just casually looking through the EU leaderboards, I spotted a 91 clear in S7 by Luterro, done on October 10th. No changes/nerfs have been made to the build in S7 or 8.

 

[Guest Rillettes]

Hi !
I'm using a build slightly different, whereas I used yours as a base.
Instead of threatening shout, I use Ground slam to refresh my cooldowns. I use this rotation : Leap (3 times) --> Boulder toss --> Ground stomp --> Boulder toss. After the second boulder toss, I spent enough rage to entierly reset leap's CD, and Ground stomp is reseted after another Boulder toss.
So far it works quite well, I cleaning 65 GR without any problem. I'll try higher soon.

[Valks 2,375]

18 hours ago, Guest Rillettes said:

Hi !
I'm using a build slightly different, whereas I used yours as a base.
Instead of threatening shout, I use Ground slam to refresh my cooldowns. I use this rotation : Leap (3 times) --> Boulder toss --> Ground stomp --> Boulder toss. After the second boulder toss, I spent enough rage to entierly reset leap's CD, and Ground stomp is reseted after another Boulder toss.
So far it works quite well, I cleaning 65 GR without any problem. I'll try higher soon.

How often can you maintain the stun? I would imagine, at higher GRifts, you'll really be missing that 20% damage reduction, especially at 80+, given that it will most likely have much higher uptime than the stun from Ground Stomp.

[Guest tomasd]

Hi, thanks for the guide. I was wondering what paragon lvl I should be in order to do gr90+ with this build.

I already have all ancient items and good rolls, currently paragon 700 and maximum gr69 difficulty achieved.

Thx in advance, Tomas.

[Valks 2,375]

14 minutes ago, Guest tomasd said:

Hi, thanks for the guide. I was wondering what paragon lvl I should be in order to do gr90+ with this build.

I already have all ancient items and good rolls, currently paragon 700 and maximum gr69 difficulty achieved.

Thx in advance, Tomas.

Given that only 250-300 or so people have cleared GR90 on non-seasonal, I would imagine that paragon level isn't the deciding factor. If you're referring to our suggestion of 90+ in the build list, that refers to group play. 

To answer your question though, just aim for as much as possible. Obviously being above 1,000 paragon is a solid boost over being at 800, but paragon alone won't get you to GR90.

[Sableflame 5]

All in all, this build's entire guide needs a re-write, top to bottom:

1) An explanation regarding Dread Iron - from what it used to be to what it is, and where this hidden 200% Avalanche damage boost is located.

2) The triple Leap, while in the very first sentence, isn't referenced as to HOW until the absolute end in the Kanai list.  While it may be "old hat" to some long-time Barbarian players... somebody new to the Wild & Hairy lifestyle might be (justifiably) confused.

3) Likewise, Girdle of Giants is an odd choice... as it's activator ability is not included in the base build (Seismic Slam).

... I'm sure I'm missing some other bits that have been addressed throughout this thread, but it is worth a serious once through by the author.  Try to remember not everyone reading these is as unthinkably awesome as y'all are and might, on occasion, need it dumbed down for them just a few steps. :)

[Guest Danny]

On 1/18/2016 at 4:22 AM, Guest masterprtzl said:

Hardcore barb here, unwilling to play without my cheat death proc passive, which of the passives is easiest to cut while maintaining a functional build.

Can someone answer his question?

[Guest l-f]

On 5.12.2016 at 4:22 AM, Sableflame said:

1) An explanation regarding Dread Iron - from what it used to be to what it is, and where this hidden 200% Avalanche damage boost is located.

I'd like to ask about Dread Iron - is it in the build "only" for its Avalanche multiplier, even though we're not taking Ground Stomp in active skills?

 

On 5.12.2016 at 4:22 AM, Sableflame said:

3) Likewise, Girdle of Giants is an odd choice... as it's activator ability is not included in the base build (Seismic Slam).

I've noticed some new features on the site, Seismic Slam is included in the Solo Progression Alternative "tab" (there are three buttons just at the start of the guide: Solo Progression, Solo Progression Alternative, Speedruns. Clicking on each displays different skills)

[Guest Mr Guest]

On 1/6/2017 at 9:33 PM, Guest l-f said:

I'd like to ask about Dread Iron - is it in the build "only" for its Avalanche multiplier, even though we're not taking Ground Stomp in active skills?

 

I've noticed some new features on the site, Seismic Slam is included in the Solo Progression Alternative "tab" (there are three buttons just at the start of the guide: Solo Progression, Solo Progression Alternative, Speedruns. Clicking on each displays different skills)

For the first point about Dread Iron, coming from the start build from fresh 70 we were using Stomp. So either he forgot about it and put it in this build by mistake or there's another way to use the build and he forgot to mention it. Namely, get rid of Wrath of Beserkers and replace with Ground Stomp with wrenching smash as the rune. I've found success with this variation so far. The rotation goes Leap x1 -> activate Battle Rage -> Leap x1 -> activate Threatening Shout (can be done mid-air) -> Leap x1 -> Boulder Toss -> Ground Stomp -> (if EQ off CD activate here) -> Boulder Toss -> back into Leap rotation. This rotation works by using Ground Stomp to allow you to quickly reset leap and get more damage off with Boulder Toss.  Ground Stomp with the Wrenching Smash rune will ensure you pull enemies into your Belt-assisted Avalanche, as well as, provide an additional stun in the rotation if for some reason you get caught without a leap to save you. Although you lose the 50% damage increase that you would get from Beserker's with Insanity rune, it's much more survivable until you get more CDR. IF you can reset Leap from just one boulder toss then by all means take Wrath of the Beserker instead. All in All, its a much safer build that still hits like truck with the items mentioned in the build. Also, in the cube I don't have The Furnace yet so I'm using The Three-hundredth Spear instead. Gives a 60% damage boost to Boulder Toss and combo's well with Skular's Salvation, pretty nice to have. Hope that helps!

[Valks 2,375]

On 12/5/2016 at 3:22 AM, Sableflame said:

1) An explanation regarding Dread Iron - from what it used to be to what it is, and where this hidden 200% Avalanche damage boost is located.

This mishap is actually caused by a tooltip error. It doesn't list the Avalanche damage boost, instead showing it simply as one of the magic properties that can roll, rather than a guaranteed one.

On 12/5/2016 at 3:22 AM, Sableflame said:

2) The triple Leap, while in the very first sentence, isn't referenced as to HOW until the absolute end in the Kanai list.  While it may be "old hat" to some long-time Barbarian players... somebody new to the Wild & Hairy lifestyle might be (justifiably) confused.

It is only referenced later due to the fact that it only applies when you have the Lut Socks available in the cube. Without them, you can't do it. I'll see if we can add a note about it.

On 12/5/2016 at 3:22 AM, Sableflame said:

3) Likewise, Girdle of Giants is an odd choice... as it's activator ability is not included in the base build (Seismic Slam).

Quoting from the guide:

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For the  Seismic Slam variation however, it is necessary to swap into  Girdle of Giants for its  Earthquake damage amplification.

Hopefully this clears up a bit.

[Valks 2,375]

On 12/29/2016 at 5:31 PM, Guest Danny said:

Can someone answer his question?

Ruthless. Ideally your Hellfire will solve this though.

[Valks 2,375]

On 1/7/2017 at 2:33 AM, Guest l-f said:

I'd like to ask about Dread Iron - is it in the build "only" for its Avalanche multiplier, even though we're not taking Ground Stomp in active skills?

It is only for the multiplier.

[Valks 2,375]

4 hours ago, Guest Mr Guest said:

For the first point about Dread Iron, coming from the start build from fresh 70 we were using Stomp. So either he forgot about it and put it in this build by mistake or there's another way to use the build and he forgot to mention it. 

See above. It is only for the 200% extra damage from Avalanche.