wow Dracthyr Evokers May Be Getting a New Spec in Patch 10.1

[Starym 3,800]

 

A very surprising development from the 10.1 PTR: a placeholder quest has popped up (as spotted by the Evoker discord and redditor Insanitypizza) which seems to indicate the class may be getting a brand new specialization!

The quest isn't in its "in-world" state yet, with technical details being written by the devs, but the text itself is very clear, so now the question becomes whether this was a scrapped idea that wasn't removed from the build, a botching of a big "new spec" announcement for the Dracthyr, or just a not-so-funny-joke left in to both make Demon Hunters temporarily extremely jealous and eventually make Evokers pretty disappointed.

(There are better quality images out there, but credit where credit is due, as this is the first mention of the quest on reddit - however the Evoker discord may have found it beforehand).

There are also followup quests and some are taking details from those to indicate what kind of spec it may be, with the main theory being that its another support role, as one of the quests mentions "boosting" allies in a boss fight. Considering the context of said quest it seems a little premature to assume that, as there may be other quest-specific factors involved in said boosting and, well, a lot of Evoker players are reeeally hoping for an earth-themed tank spec! There's also plenty of lore to support a more tanky Black Dragonflight/earth related specialization, as the Dracthyr have had the Black Dragonflight's power extracted from them and 10.1 is very much about Neltharion - however who's to say the earth/Black Dragonflight theme can't be presented as a support spec as well.

And the final piece of the puzzle seems to have some players assuming that it isn't happening, which is an interview answer from Associate Game Director Morgan Day, where he directly addresses the question:

My personal takeaway on that particular answer is definitely not a no (despite the fact that he does say "but, yea, sorry" at the end) and that part of the tone of the response could be an excitement/being caught off-guard by the question considering it is something that's planned for 10.1 but not ready for announcement. In any case, I wouldn't call that a hard no (then again I am an Evoker player and a tank fan so...)

What do you think, based on all the information available for now? Unintended premature announcement? Scrapped plan from long ago? A not that funny joke on Evokers and (indirectly) Demon Hunters?

[Darkclaw 23]

please be a tank spec, please please please

[Starym 3,800]

My bet is it's a 10.1.5 thing.

[Parserote86 0]

2 hours ago, Darkclaw said:

please be a tank spec, please please please

That would actually be interesting, specially if they make it to look something like this.

[FlamedramonX 38]

What Demon Hunters seem to forget is that Evokers have a racial problems they don't have.

Demon Hunters are either Night Elves or Blood Elves. If they want to be range or heal, they can pretty easy create another class with those races and be a healer or a range class.

Dracthyr as a "race" has absolutely no option to be tanks right now. Making it the only race in the game right now that cannot tank. So if opening old classes for them isn't something blizz has planned at the moment it just makes sense that they open up a new spec for Evoker so that they can be tanks. Considering each spec it's themed after a flight the new one would definitely have to be a black themed spec.

So stop being Jealous DHs, or more exactly Night/Blood elves for asking us to have something we "don't have an alternative to" while you already have other options to do so. 

Just because adding a new spec to a class it's something they have never done doesn't mean they can't. Have Empowered skills por example. They have never done anything like it in the past and here they are.

Edited March 10, 2023 by FlamedramonX

[ArthasStormrage87 52]

3 hours ago, FlamedramonX said:

What Demon Hunters seem to forget is that Evokers have a racial problems they don't have.

Demon Hunters are either Night Elves or Blood Elves. If they want to be range or heal, they can pretty easy create another class with those races and be a healer or a range class.

Dracthyr as a "race" has absolutely no option to be tanks right now. Making it the only race in the game right now that cannot tank. So if opening old classes for them isn't something blizz has planned at the moment it just makes sense that they open up a new spec for Evoker so that they can be tanks. Considering each spec it's themed after a flight the new one would definitely have to be a black themed spec.

So stop being Jealous DHs, or more exactly Night/Blood elves for asking us to have something we "don't have an alternative to" while you already have other options to do so. 

Just because adding a new spec to a class it's something they have never done doesn't mean they can't. Have Empowered skills por example. They have never done anything like it in the past and here they are.

In all honesty tanking isn’t a race thing though, it’s a class specialization! I would love to see another evoker spec, but if they do one and dh don’t get a healing or ranged spec I would be pretty upset.

[FlamedramonX 38]

36 minutes ago, ArthasStormrage87 said:

In all honesty tanking isn’t a race thing though, it’s a class specialization! I would love to see another evoker spec, but if they do one and dh don’t get a healing or ranged spec I would be pretty upset.

What i mean it's that Dracthyrs don't have a tanking spec, making them the only race in the game that cannot tank and locking 1/3 of the population to enjoy their favorite rol on the new race. Blizzard should have realized this and either release Evoker with 3 specs from the very beggining or allowed them to be other classes from the very beggining too. They should not have released a new race ("race", not "class") without letting it be all 3 roles.

So if they are sticking to the "the other classes would not have fit Dracthyr so we made them their own class" comment then they should have allowed Evokers to tank from day 1. Just imagine how many people would have loved to play a dragon tank.

Adding a tanking role to Evokers now its not expanding the class, it's just fixing a mistake they shouldn't have commited in the first place.

Edited March 10, 2023 by FlamedramonX

[Grumar 188]

Hardly unexpected, called this as soon as they revealed only 2 specs. Of course the dragon class is going to have a tank spec, this whole expansion was clearly rushed. Don't be shocked when dracthyr can be more classes and can actually use armor and have transmog. These are things they clearly just didn't have time to finish before pushing expansion out.

[ZINK 0]

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Considering the context of said quest it seems a little premature to assume that, as there may be other quest-specific factors involved in said boosting and, well, a lot of Evoker players are reeeally hoping for an earth-themed tank spec! 

Are all those "a lot of Evoker players" suddenly going to switch to the complete opposite Role and become Tank mains then?

Sure it might sound neat ON PAPER, but as a Tank I DO NOT WANT ANY MORE TANK SPECS OR CLASSES!

There are already MORE than enough Tank Specs and most of them still need very significant work done on them. 

Tank spots are already extremely hard to get (in competitive Guilds), and there is already a ton of pressure on Tank Mains to level and play every Tank Class. So quit trying to add more work for us Tanks to do just so yall Evokers can feel self-satisfaction that you finally have a 3rd spec that you will never ever actually play.

It doesn't matter to me at all if Evokers get a 3rd Spec, but it CANNOT BE A TANK SPEC!

[Arcling 898]

9 hours ago, Parserote86 said:

That would actually be interesting, specially if they make it to look something like this.

Drakonid are a different species, so no chance.

Still, it's unusual for them to add new spec to existing class. The only other example was this when they split Feral/Guardian druid, although in that case this wasn't exactly new spec. If it happens, then DHs will be the only ones with just two specs.

[Teufel 331]

32 minutes ago, Arcling said:

If it happens, then DHs will be the only ones with just two specs.

Still waiting for DH Technology-based spec ever since fighting Antoran High Command 😄

[Ragingwolf 310]

I don't mind if Evoker is given another specialization and indifferent if it is a new Tanking role.  However, there are Tank specializations like Druid-Bear that needs some loving and work through from the Blizzard development team before just going gun-ho on a new race/class imo.  As far as DH and a third specialization it would be nice to have one either it be a range or a heal specialization.  It was kinda teased via visual representation, during the Legion expansion, of seeing one of the DH npc's wielding a two handed scythe by the name of Allari Souleater.  DH's can only wield most 1-handed weapons like swords, axes, warglaives, and fist weapons not 2-handers compared to Evokers that have an odd assortment of equipable weapons.  Who knows, we may all get our wishes granted in next series of patches/expansion on the classes we love to play.

[Ken007 97]

I always thought those big Drakonids from the black dragonflight (with the large tails) would make excellent tanks. The wings can serve as a shield, they can have a tail swipe and even use a little breath weapon blast. It would be fun to play. I also think they should consider opening up more specs for some of the other classes. Customization doesn't always have to be a new cloak....

[ArthasStormrage87 52]

On 3/10/2023 at 9:24 AM, FlamedramonX said:

What i mean it's that Dracthyrs don't have a tanking spec, making them the only race in the game that cannot tank and locking 1/3 of the population to enjoy their favorite rol on the new race. Blizzard should have realized this and either release Evoker with 3 specs from the very beggining or allowed them to be other classes from the very beggining too. They should not have released a new race ("race", not "class") without letting it be all 3 roles.

So if they are sticking to the "the other classes would not have fit Dracthyr so we made them their own class" comment then they should have allowed Evokers to tank from day 1. Just imagine how many people would have loved to play a dragon tank.

Adding a tanking role to Evokers now its not expanding the class, it's just fixing a mistake they shouldn't have commited in the first place.

Yeah I’am not a big fan of the 2 spec class philosophy, DK’s are a hero class and they got 3 specs. I guess all we can do is cross our fingers and hope one day the 2 spec classes get what they deserve.

[Psyme 0]

would be nice for it to be a tank for the simple reasons that there are no mail wearing tanks atm, and its the second heaviest armor type. Secondly it would be the only tank that could bring heroism to 5 mans.

[SirNicNasty 0]

On 3/10/2023 at 4:07 AM, FlamedramonX said:

What Demon Hunters seem to forget is that Evokers have a racial problems they don't have.

Demon Hunters are either Night Elves or Blood Elves. If they want to be range or heal, they can pretty easy create another class with those races and be a healer or a range class.

Dracthyr as a "race" has absolutely no option to be tanks right now. Making it the only race in the game right now that cannot tank. So if opening old classes for them isn't something blizz has planned at the moment it just makes sense that they open up a new spec for Evoker so that they can be tanks. Considering each spec it's themed after a flight the new one would definitely have to be a black themed spec.

So stop being Jealous DHs, or more exactly Night/Blood elves for asking us to have something we "don't have an alternative to" while you already have other options to do so. 

Just because adding a new spec to a class it's something they have never done doesn't mean they can't. Have Empowered skills por example. They have never done anything like it in the past and here they are.

You think DHs pick nelf and belf because we have a choice? DHs and Evo both need 3rd specs.. eos