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[General] Mage 6.0 Transition Guide

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I don't understand this sentence, from the Fire guide:

 

"Black Blood of Y'shaarj seems to benefit Fire the most, but it's not a bad choice for the other specs either."

 

The trinket is a Haste trinket with a stacking intellect proc. How will Haste benefit Fire the most?

Due to BBoY giving you a window to set up combustion

 

 

Would you mind telling us why you believe Frost has been pulling lower numbers on the Beta and the PTR? My understanding of the combat logs from Mythic testing is just the opposite: Frost has been significantly higher than both Arcane and Fire.

Tuning. The magic answer here is tuning.

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Would you mind telling us why you believe Frost has been pulling lower numbers on the Beta and the PTR? My understanding of the combat logs from Mythic testing is just the opposite: Frost has been significantly higher than both Arcane and Fire.

 

Frost got all its nerfs AFTER the mythic testing was closed.

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I didn't have the chance to play on Beta but now that 6.0 is up, Frost seems not an option for raid. Our gear only have Kardris' Toxic Totem which will give Multistrike. If you don't have this item farmed (like me)... well you will try but you dps will not leave last place.

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I didn't have the chance to play on Beta but now that 6.0 is up, Frost seems not an option for raid. Our gear only have Kardris' Toxic Totem which will give Multistrike. If you don't have this item farmed (like me)... well you will try but you dps will not leave last place.

You can also try to go to UBRS and get some items with Multistrike. I haven't checked the exact list of items, but there should be some. It's also be interesting to see if an 550 ilvl item would provide more dps than a 568 without multistrike. Meh, seems like it's time to star playing again.

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hi mages

as i understand, after beta testing and before 6.0.2 frost has decreased enough, right?

so

we have 6 choices in last 2 tiers

i've chosen bomb in 5th - don't like it, cause of small amount of FoF (dunno why), then i prefer nova - my opinion it's not so bad, especially when we have too many low hp mobs

6th - i prefer copies

as i understand, they scale from our hast, multi and spd? or better another talents? flow/rune?

 

have you tested frost already in SoO live?

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I have done Fire Testing and our other mage has done Arcane, so I will have to talk to some Frost Mages to answer to you.

After yesterdays testing I will do a small update to this guide this weekend.

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in our raid fire and arcane show themselves betterm than my frost

their mage skill is worse, but i can say that frost now not so good, as it was before 6.0.2

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It is quite obvious why.

 

If you check the most important secondary stats for each spec, you can realize that Arcane's mastery and Fire's Crit gets boosted by their previously got gear. 

 

However, for frost, the most important secondary stat is currently Multistrike, and in SoO, there are no items with Multistrike. (Well, not too many).

 

Regarding T5 tier bomb should be the default choice, on single target, when you can cast enough Frostbolts for FoF procs. But the difference is not that huge, so if you like Ice nova just go for it. ;)

 

On T6, Mirror Images is only worth if you are on single target fight, because you don't really want your images to switch around targets etc. If not Mirror Images, I would choose Incanter's flow . I still HATE Rop... :D But this is just personal preferrence.

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It is quite obvious why.

 

If you check the most important secondary stats for each spec, you can realize that Arcane's mastery and Fire's Crit gets boosted by their previously got gear. 

 

However, for frost, the most important secondary stat is currently Multistrike, and in SoO, there are no items with Multistrike. (Well, not too many).

 

Regarding T5 tier bomb should be the default choice, on single target, when you can cast enough Frostbolts for FoF procs. But the difference is not that huge, so if you like Ice nova just go for it. wink.png

 

On T6, Mirror Images is only worth if you are on single target fight, because you don't really want your images to switch around targets etc. If not Mirror Images, I would choose Incanter's flow . I still HATE Rop... biggrin.png But this is just personal preferrence.

dont think that bomb is now best choice for frost

in my opinion now um and nova can be better the way that they dont depend on % of procs

i tried on juggernaut frost bomb, so what i can say

even if our filler can proc FoF their amount is very small and every good moment for refreshing bomb is in fact dps lost, or we should refresh it only before frozen orb

my empiric experience says that i dont like bomb right now=)

 

about ROP - may it can be so good with nova in aoe fights

or may be not=)

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Thanks for the guide Berlinia, helped me a lot for this first week of 6.0 !

I agree with you on Nether Tempest being the best for Arcane, I tried Supernova for awhile but I ended up not convinced. The knock up seems to work on the majority of the mobs besides bosses though, can be situationally good.

I like Incanter's Flow a lot because of the mobility and I'm glad it is close to Rune of Power. But I don't get why you said that casting Nether Tempest at low stacks of Incanter's Flow might be good, with its DPET being way ahead of the other spells.

 

I plan on trying Frost later this week, but I see some contradictions here. You say that Unstable Magic is bad but SimulationCraft keeps using it for its mage Frost spec. Can you enlighten me on that on ?

Also, I'm wondering if Frostbolt multistrikes can make Unstable Magic proc, and if Ice Lance multistrikes proc Forst Bomb.

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But I don't get why you said that casting Nether Tempest at low stacks of Incanter's Flow might be good, with its DPET being way ahead of the other spells.

 

I guess it's because NT damage updates dinamically, so in the long run its damage isn't influenced by IF (other than being boosted by 12% on average). If you cast it at low IF stacks, you will be sure to be casting your other spells at higher stacks.

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I guess it's because NT damage updates dinamically, so in the long run its damage isn't influenced by IF (other than being boosted by 12% on average). If you cast it at low IF stacks, you will be sure to be casting your other spells at higher stacks.

 

Well I thought NT and LV damage did not update dynamically and that's why we could snapshot it (https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/4836-magebomb-snapshotting-guide/).

Haven't heard of any changes regarding this so I assumed it would work the same way with IF.

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Dots now update dynamically.. smile.png

Except for Nether Tempest, which damage increases by 50% of each stack of Arcane Charges at the moment of casting, but IF indeed does not affect..

The guide you have linked is from February.

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I have Heroic Toxic Totem, Purified Bindings, and Black Blood.  I am currently wrecking with Arcane.  Which of the PBoI and BBoY are best?  Thanks!

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And all respect to Berlinia. Your comments and thoughts helped me to make this guide. 

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And all resepct to Berlinia. Your comments and thoughts helped me to make this guide. 

You are free to post your own guide to our forums and ask people to comment on it, but this section is not an advertisement forum.

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      (6.0) Agility > Weapon Damage > Crit > Haste > Mastery
       
       
      BiS list has changed slightly from 5.4 and is as follows:
       
      Helm: Tier Neck: Gleaming Eye of the Devilsaur (Thok the Bloodthirsty) Shoulders: Tier Cloak: Legendary Chest: Ancient Archer's Chestguard (Spoils) Bracers: Bracers of Infinite Pipes / Dagryn's Fuselight Bracers (Siegecrafter / Galakras) Gloves: Tier Belt: Arrowflight Girdle (Spoils) Legs: Tier Boots: Puddle Punishers / Ravager's Pathwalkers (Immerseus / Nazgrim) Ring 1: Reality Ripper Ring (Norushen) Ring 2: Swift Serpent Signet (Galakras) Trinket 1: Haromm's Talisman (Dark Shamans) Trinket 2: Assurance of Consequence (Sha of Pride) Weapon: Hisek's Reserve Longbow (Paragons)     SV Weapon Rankings / ST Sims:        Best Races:       Nothing else to note here for SV.     Talents   BM:   Immerseus: Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage Protectors: Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage
      Norushen: Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage
      Sha of Pride: Dire Beast, Crows, Barrage
      Galakras: Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage
      Iron Juggernaut: Dire Beast, Crows, Glaive Toss
      Kor'kron Dark Shamans: Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage
      Nazgrim: Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage
      Malkorok: Dire Beast, Crows, Glaive Toss
      Spoils: Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage
      Thok: Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage
      Siegecrafter(belt): Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage
      Siegecrafter(platform): Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage
      Paragons: Dire Beast, Crows, Barrage
      Garrosh: Dire Beast, Blink Strikes, Barrage   MM:   Immerseus: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Protectors: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Norushen: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Sha of Pride: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Galakras: Thrill of the Hunt, Blink Strikes, Barrage Iron Juggernaut: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Kor'kron Dark Shamans: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Nazgrim: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Malkorok: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Spoils: Thrill of the Hunt, Blink Strikes, Barrage Thok: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Siegecrafter(belt): Thrill of the Hunt, Blink Strikes, Glaive Toss Siegecrafter(platform): Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage Paragons: Thrill of the Hunt, Blink Strikes, Barrage Garrosh: Thrill of the Hunt, Stampede, Barrage     Opener   MM:   Your opener should look something like this.   
      Aimed Shot Chimaera Shot Stampede / Only Rapid Fire if AoC procs Steady Shot Steady Shot Rapid Fire / If AoC hasn't proc'd yet Aimed Shot / ( Barrage only if 2+ targets. On single target - otherwise delay until after Careful Aim (sub 80%)) Proceed  
      BM: Dire Beast Bestial Wrath + KC Murder Barrage / Glaive Proceed     SV:     WoD   When WoD releases all of this information will be scrapped in favor of the new tier as well as level 100 talents will be added. I will do my best to keep this updated as 6.0 gets into full swing.   -Niix
    • By Kazistrasz
      WoD Balance 6.0 Guide: When the Stars Align
       
      By: Kazistrasz
       
      Edit: Since Kaz is no longer playing WoW any more, all changes made after Jan 11th 2015 are not accounted for in this guide.  On Jan 12th, there was a small change to haste (90 haste per 1%) and a small buff to mastery.  Most of what is said here is still true, but take the haste ratings with a grain of salt.
      -Krazyito
       
      This guide is written and will be maintained to reflect the best practices of Balance druid (boomkin) in Warlords of Draenor. It is the result of a combination of much work play testing, calculating in spreadsheets, and simulations through SimulationCraft.
       
      Updated for Patch 6.0.3/Highmaul release
       
      Table of Contents
      I. Specialization Overview/What Has Changed
      -->Ability Pruning
      -->All About the DoTs
      -->New Eclipse System
      -->Core Spell Changes
      II. Racial Perks Evaluated
      -->Comparison
      III. Talents & Glyphs Explained
      -->Talents
      -->Glyphs
      IV. Stat Analysis
      -->List of Stats
      -->Stat Priority
      V. Gear Acquisition & Tier 17 Bonuses
      -->Tier 17 Bonuses
      -->Best in Slot List
      VI. Trinket Breakdown
      -->Trinket by Trinket
      -->Master List Ranking
      VII. Gameplay Tips and Tricks
      -->DoT Usage
      -->Starsurge Usage
      -->Cooldown Usage
      -->General Raid Utility
      -->AoE and Multi-Target Priority
      -->Single Target Priority
      -->Opening Rotation
      VIII. Credits, Thanks, & Feedback
      IX. Changelog
       
      I. Specialization Overview/What Has Changed
       
      In 6.0, the Balance spec was given a major overhaul to its Eclipse system, as well as various other changes. Let's start with the miscellaneous, smaller changes:
       
      Ability Pruning:
      Faerie Fire is now Guardian and Feral only. Innervate is gone. Might of Ursoc is gone. Symbiosis is gone. Nature's Swiftness and Tranquility are now Restoration only. Lacerate and Maul are now Guardian only. Mangle (Cat Form) and Swipe are now Feral only. Thrash is now available (so useful). Blizzard finally decided to address the idea that people were running out of places to put things on their bars without special mice, tons of modifiers, and tons of macros. So, basically, we've lost a little bit of our healing utility and defensive abilities both as a spec and as a class. Oh, and we can do less stuff while we're in Bear Form and Cat Form, because we spend a lot of time in either of those.
       
      All About the DoTs
       
      Pandemic was originally a passive ability for warlocks in Mists of Pandaria, but has since become a core mechanic in the game. When you refresh Moonfire and Sunfire, you add their current duration at the next tick, up to 30% of the base duration. In short, refreshing Moonfire up to 12 seconds early or Sunfire up to 7 seconds early does not clip any of the duration. Additionally, DoTs no longer add entire ticks to their duration. Instead, the game simply adds a "partial" tick at the end of the DoT for the portion of a full tick leftover at the end. 
       
      However, the single most important change to DoTs is the removal of snapshotting. Previously, when you cast a DoT, it took a "snapshot" of all of your stats and buffs at the moment you cast it and applied all of that across the DoT's entire duration. Meaning, if you had a 5-second buff that made you do double damage when you cast a 20-second DoT, it maintained that double damage for all 20 seconds. DoTs no longer do this and update with your current stats every tick.
       
      New Eclipse System
       
      Our Eclipse energy is now fully automated and no longer based on our spell-spellcasting. For the mathematically inclined, we gain and lose energy as a sine curve. For everyone else, the close to 0 our energy is, the faster we gain and lose it. The closer to 100 we are, the slower it goes. When our energy reaches 100, it pauses briefly. For a visual reference, a graph of our energy over time, with positive representing lunar energy and negative representing solar energy:
       

       
      For the purposes of add-ons and WeakAuras, it's important to know that the game actually counts lunar energy as negative. 
       
      When combat starts, we begin at 0 and gain lunar energy. Once combat ends, the cycle continues on for 30 seconds and then resets.
       
      With this ever-changing, automatically-cycling Eclipse, our damage bonus has changed. We no longer reach 100 energy and get a monster buff until we reach 0 again. Instead, we always have some amount of bonus to our spells. At 100 lunar energy, we have maximum bonus to our lunar spells, base 30% and increased by mastery, but no bonus at all to solar spells. At 100 solar energy, our solar spells have our maximum bonus with no bonus for lunar spells. When we're perfectly balanced at 0 energy, we have half of our bonus (base 15%) to both spells together.
       
      For a visual, here's a graph of our damage bonus for lunar and solar spells, assuming only the base bonus:
       

       
      This will have significant implications on our rotation, to be explained later.
       
      Core Spell Changes
       
      Starfire remains a single-target spell with a base cast time of 3 seconds. It benefits from lunar energy bonus.
       
      Wrath is another single-target spell with a base cast time of 2 seconds. It benefits from solar energy bonus. Wrath has a lower Damage Per Execution Time than Starfire.
       
      Starsurge is an instant cast ability that gives either two stacks of Lunar Empowerment or three stacks of Solar Empowerment, matching your current energy type. Both buff your next Starfire or Wrath, respectively, by 30%. It benefits from your highest eclipse bonus. Starsurge has a very high Damage Per Execution time in its own right, increased further when considering the bonus you'll add over your next few spells. Starsurge now works on a charge system, having 3 charges and a recharge time of 30 seconds.
       
      Moonfire is now very lengthy, single-target DoT, lasting a whopping 40 seconds. The base tick speed for Moonfire is 2 seconds. It benefits from lunar energy bonus and may only be cast during lunar energy (sharing a button with Sunfire). In addition, it has a 5% chance on tick (or 10% chance on critical tick) to proc Shooting Stars, granting another charge of Starsurge. Upon reaching 100 lunar energy, you gain a 5-second Buff called Lunar Peak that doubles the initial damage component of Moonfire.
       
      Sunfire is a less lengthy DoT that lasts for 24 seconds. While the initial damage is single-target, the DoT itself is then applied to every enemy within 5 yards of your target. The base tick speed for Sunfire is also 2 seconds. It benefits from solar energy bonus and may only be cast during solar energy (sharing a button with Moonfire). Like Moonfire, Sunfire also has a 5%/10% chance on tick to proc Shooting Stars. Upon reaching 100 solar energy, you gain a 5-second buff called Solar Peak that doubles the initial damage component of Sunfire.
       
      Starfall gives you a buff for 10 seconds that causes you to deal damage to all targets within 40 yards of you.  It benefits from lunar eclipse bonus and shares charges with Starsurge.
       
      Because Blizzard thinks we have nostalgia about the most hated part of the spec's history, Starfall now damages all targets within 40 yards, even if they are not in combat. Use caution when activating Starfall when there is something nearby that needs to not be pulled. It is some of the difficulty can be alleviated by taking Glyph of the Solstice and using Sunfire's new cleave function to quickly spread designate targets for Starfall.
       
      Hurricane is an area-of-effect (AoE) ability that must be channeled to deal damage. It benefits from solar eclipse bonus, but is currently very weak and rarely worth using.
       
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      II. Racial Perks Evaluated
       
      For quite some time, we have complained about the imbalance of racials, and finally Blizzard has seen to fixing it. Whereas Night Elves have long had no impact on DPS and Trolls have reigned supreme, we'll now see a very minor difference from one race to another.
       
      Alliance Perks
      Night Elf: Touch of Elune = 1% haste at night and 1% crit chance during day. Yes, it seems silly, and we sort of expect them to change it before it goes live. Worgen: Viciousness = 1% crit chance. Horde Perks
      Tauren: Brawn = 2% crit damage and healing bonus. Troll: Berserking = 15% haste for 10 seconds on a 3-minute CD. Comparison
      Simulated through SimCraft, these evaluate as follows at  level:
      Troll - 37,242 DPS Night Elf - 37,239 DPS Worgen - 37,181 DPS Tauren - 37,151 DPS *evaluated with a 0.08% margine of error
       
      What this means is that your choice of race does not matter at all from a DPS perspective. The difference between the highest and lowest simming races is 0.24%. You should choose your race based on utility and usefulness. A few things to consider:
       
      Night Elves have Shadowmeld, which can occasionally help recover after wipes or even provide a temporary threat dump. Additionally, Quickness can be useful if there are adds that must be tanked by DPS for any reason. Tauren have War Stomp, which is incredibly useful for controlling and limiting adds. Trolls have Da Voodoo Shuffle, which can be useful if content has a significant amount of movement impairing effects. Worgen have Darkflight, which can be extremely useful in case Dash and Stampeding Roar are inadequate. Or, you can simply pick the race that you like the looks of best. How you decide is up to you, but what race you pick doesn't actually matter.
       
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      III. Talents & Glyphs Explained
       
      Tier 1 (Level 15)
      Feline Swiftness is just a passive movement speed boost. Displacer Beast gives a short teleport and a burst of movement, but shifts you into Cat Form. Ysera’s Gift changes based on form, but is essentially a hunter's Deterrence as Boomkin. Feline Swiftness should be the default choice, as Displacer Beast requires two GCDs (one to use, and one to shift back into Moonkin Form). Displacer Beast should be considered when you need to cover a long distance that would require two GCDs to move normally.
       
      Tier 2 (Level 30)
      Ysera's Gift passively heals you every 5 seconds or heals other raid members if you're full. Renewal essentially replaces the Mists of Pandaria version of Healthstone. Cenarion Ward will heal its target the next time they take damage. Ysera's Gift is a good source of constant healing against constant damage and requires no attention. Renewal is good for situations where raid damage is heavily centered in single hits or short bursts to help be one less person healers need to catch up. Cenarion Ward should never be used.
       
      Tier 3 (Level 45)
      Faerie Swarm simply gives you a single target slow. Mass Entanglement is an AoE root ability. Typhoon is a conal knockback. Your choice here depends on the fight. If you need a good, single-target slow, take Faerie Swarm. If you need to hold a lot of enemies in one place, use Mass Entanglement. Typhoon is good when you need another knockback in your raid, or just for general defensive purposes when stuns are not enough to limit an add's melee.  
      Tier 4 (Level 60)
      Soul of the Forest makes Lunar Empowerment and Solar Empowerment further buff your Starfire and Wrath. Incarnation: Chosen of Elune is a flat, 15% damage buff for 30 seconds every 3 minutes. It requires a GCD to activate, as it is a shapeshift. Force of Nature has three charges that summon Treants that cast Wrath at your target. Force of Nature is best used during trinket procs. Soul of the Forest is the talent of choice for single target situations, being a 0.7% to 1.5% over other choices depending on your Tier 7 (Level 100) talent choice.
       
      Incarnation: Chosen of Elune is the choice for fights with two or more targets the majority of the time, being an increase over other talent choices by 2% or more, based on number of targets and Tier 4 (Level 60) talent choice.
       
      Tier 5 (Level 75)
      Incapacitating Roar is an AoE disorient every 30 seconds. Ursol’s Vortex is a targeted AoE slow that grips enemies back into it every minute. Mighty Bash is a 5-second, single-target stun every 50 seconds. This tier is completely based around the fight. Where an extra stun is needed (assuming your raid somehow doesn't have enough baseline stuns), you can take Mighty Bash. Most of the time that you're dealing with adds, Ursol’s Vortex will be the talent of choice to help kite since Incapacitating Roar does not always work on many adds and is broken by any damage.
       
      Tier 6 (Level 90)
      Heart of the Wild gives you a 45 second buff every 6 minutes that allows you to ghetto tank, ghetto melee, or ghetto heal effectively. Dream of Cenarius causes refreshing your DoTs at 100 energy (or shortly thereafter) to do heal a nearby raid member. Nature’s Vigil causes your single-target spells to copy 30% of their damage as healing to nearby raid members. Nature’s Vigil should be your default choice here. Dream of Cenarius is incredibly weak healing, which you may not even get to use much of if your DoTs don't need to be refreshed at peak. Heart of the Wild should only be taken for a fight where the healing demanded in one phase is high enough to merit having a DPS completely stop DPSing to help heal.
       
      Tier 7 (Level 100)
      Euphoria doubles the speed of your Eclipse cycle and reduces the cast time of your empowered Starfire and Wrath casts. Stellar Flare is an extra DoT that does more damage (both initial damage and DoT damage) when you're at 0 energy than at either end of the cycle. Balance of Power is a talent that makes your DoTs tick harder and removes the need to refresh them.  
      Euphoria is the talent of choice for single target encounters, leading by 4% to 5% over other choices depending on your Tier 4 (Level 60) talent choice.
       
      Stellar Flare is the choice for fights with two or more targets the majority of the time, being an increase over other talent choices by 7% or more, based on number of targets and Tier 4 (Level 60) talent choice.
       
      Major Glyphs
       
      We don't have much in terms of significant glyphs as Boomkin. None of our spec-specific glyphs are particularly useful. Note that Glyph of Celestial Alignment is a DPS loss unless there were to be some mechanic to prevent you from casting 8 spells in 15 seconds. That said, I recommend the following:
      Glyph of Rebirth helps prevent raid members from dying again and saves healer mana when rezzed in combat. Glyph of Stampeding Roar is especially useful in any fight where you will be using Stampeding Roar (in addition to range, it saves a GCD of having to shift back to Moonkin Form) Glyph of Moonwarding is increased survivability for any fight where the damage you will be taking is not mitigated by armor (which is most mechanics). Glyph of Dash can be useful for fights requiring a lot of movement. Minor Glyphs
       
      Minor glyphs have no affect on DPS and almost no increase on survivability.
      Glyph of Grace should be taken for any fight where you can suffer fall damage, otherwise: Glyph of the Flapping Owl is freaking sweet. Glyph of the Orca is hilarious if a lot of your raid has Ai-Li's Skymirror Glyph of the Solstice changes your Starfall into Sunfall and Hurricane into Astral Storm. This has no effect on DPS but simply reverses their lunar/solar alignment.  
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      IV. Stat Analysis
       
      With 6.0 comes the removal of Hit and Expertise as stats and the addition of Multistrike and Versatility. Including Haste, Crit, and Mastery, we now have five secondary stats. Additionally, gear will have a chance to roll additional, tertiary stats. These are varied, from things like movement speed to sockets to bonus item levels (a la Thunderforged/Warforged in Mists of Pandaria). Note that all Mastery Rating is increased by 5% (rounding up) by Lunar Guidance.
       
      Haste
       
      Haste reduces our cast times, shortens our Global Cooldown, and makes our DoTs tick faster. As a side effect of making Moonfire and Sunfire tick faster, this increases how quickly we generate Starsurge charges via Shooting Stars.
       
      Critical Strike
       
      Crit gives all of our spells and DoTs a chance to deal double damage. It also gives our healing spells a chance to restore twice as much health, in circumstances when we need to help off-heal. In addition to the base function of crit, it also gives us more Starsurge charges. When Moonfire or Sunfire ticks crit, their chance to proc Shooting Stars doubles. 
       
      Mastery
       
      Mastery: Total Eclipse
       increases our bonus Eclipse damage. With 0 mastery rating, we have a base 30% damage bonus. This means Mastery is an increase in damage to every spell that we cast.
       
      Multistrike
       
      Multistrike is a new stat that gives all of our abilities a chance to cast again. When we cast a spell or when a DoT ticks, two rolls are made by the game. Each roll has our Multistrike chance to repeat the spell/tick for 30%. These occur shortly after the initial hit and show a second (or third), smaller spell cast graphic. Note that only the damage is repeated. Moonfire and Sunfire do not apply additional "mini-DoTs" when their initial cast Multistrikes, and Starsurge Multistrikes do not give any extra stacks of Lunar Empowerment or Solar Empowerment.  Multistrikes crit independently of the original spell and are based on the non-critical damage of the spell. So, a Starfire that crits for 60,000 and Multistrikes will only deal 9,000 (30% of the 30,000 the spell would have done on a non-crit).  Similarly, a Starfire that crits for 30,000 and Multistrike crits will deal 18,000 damage.
       
      Versatility
       
      Versatility is a new stat that just provides a flat increase to damage and healing done as well as a flat reduction in damage taken.
       
      Stat Priority
       
      Upon hitting 100, and gearing up through normal gear levels (655 item  level), our stats are relatively close, with versatility being garbage. At  this point, a single point of int is worth more a little more than 2 of any other stat. You'll want to go with:
       
      Int >>>> Haste >= Mastery >= Crit > Multistrike >> Versatility
       
      Again, the gap between haste, mastery, and crit is very small, with the gap between crit and multistrike and then the gap between multistrike and versatility widening.
       
      As we gear up and start heading towards mythic gear levels (685 and higher), our stats equalize a lot more. Mastery pulls ever so slightly ahead, but haste and crit essentially become equal. One point of int is now worth ever so slightly less than 2 points of secondary stats (except still worth more than 2 versatility). You'll roll with:
       
      Int >>>> Mastery >= Haste = Crit > Multistrike >> Versatility
       
      As gear increases, multistrike and versatility still lag behind. Again, the difference between mastery and haste is tiny, and the difference between haste and crit is indistinguishable. You could change stacking mastery, haste, and crit on enchants and see DPS differences of less than 100 out of 40k DPS. It's insignificant.
       
      I can't say this enough: You're going to be using the item with the highest item level or with a socket, regardless of secondary stats. If you're putting more than 10 seconds of thought into your stats in regards to your DPS, you need to start focusing on logs and how you're playing. Stats aren't going to make a significant difference.
       
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    • By Aaxion
      So. Everyone is saying different things right now... Icy Veins says Haste to 50% and then focus on Mastery.  Ask Mr. Robot says focus on Mastery over Haste.  Noxxic says focus on Mastery AND Crit over Haste.... Can we get some agreement up in here? lol
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