Arcane Mage 6.2

[Damien 1,514]

Question, is it still that evocation removes the arcane charge stacks? as during my LFR i did today it actually did happen. Thanks in advance

 

It does. 

Is arcane power glyph worth it? seeing that every cd and t17 t2 line up so great together

Right now, we don't have access to T17 set pieces, but we will update the guide once Blackrock Foundry is out.

[Guest Thviaara]

Mirror Image is a tier 6 talent, not 5. A minor typo.

[Berlinia 168]

Evocation doesn't REMOVE Arcane Charges, it CONSUMES them for faster mana regen

[Guest voltaren]

Evocation doesn't REMOVE Arcane Charges, it CONSUMES them for faster mana regen

and by CONSUMING them, it REMOVES them

[Berlinia 168]

Consume means something different than removing them.

[Guest Puntkicked]

hey after reading this iv noticed you said the last talent dosnt make a difference....well let me tell you as a arc mage i say it does i tried 2/3 and the crystal is way more dps then that stupid silly orb and had no chance of getting mobs pulled if used right 

[Oltier 471]

hey after reading this iv noticed you said the last talent dosnt make a difference....well let me tell you as a arc mage i say it does i tried 2/3 and the crystal is way more dps then that stupid silly orb and had no chance of getting mobs pulled if used right 

 

To be frank, it depends on the encounter type. PC is indeed slightly better on single target, while Orb is better on multitarget/cleave fights.

[Guest bobby]

I prefer the  arcane orb ! do u think when we get the 2 piece and 4 piece bonus the orb will become a more powerful choice ? with the way it procs missles and quickly  gets you to 4 charges

[Oltier 471]

I prefer the  arcane orb ! do u think when we get the 2 piece and 4 piece bonus the orb will become a more powerful choice ? with the way it procs missles and quickly  gets you to 4 charges

Depends on the encounter, really.

The tier bonuses doesn't change your priority.

[Guest Aratnis]

Please...

I don't understant the statistics priority.

You said :

 

Haste increases the cast speed of your spells and your Mana regeneration.

 

I'm ok with the cast speed xD

But I don't understand the mana regeneration. I looked the tooltip of Haste Ingame and I didn't see anything like that.

I saw spirit for the mana regeneration (But I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that spirit only work for healers.)

 

I also see that crit is 5th and even behind multistrike.

 

Can I have some explanations on this ?

 

 

I explain why:

I'm arcane AND fire

for my stuff fire, I want mastery and crit ( a lot of pieces on BFR are mastery/haste so I have a few in my BISs)

For arcane I also need mastery. I was thinking about how far I could use my fire stuff with my arcane specialisation.

 

(I'm not sure that I speak an understandable english xD... Just tell me if there is a point you didn't understood.)

 

 

[Oltier 471]

Regarding haste:

Nether Attunement

 

Crit is just worse than the other stats and this is calculated by a tool called Simcraft.

 

If you want to go for Arcane/Fire hybrid, you can prioritize mastery of crit for fire and you can just freely switch spec at anytime you want.

[Guest Aratnis]

Thank you a lot for this answer

 

I'm already working on it ^^

[Guest Kiwiani]

I am trying to up my DPS and cannot. I fellow Arcane mage is killing me , and while that is cool. I just wondering what I am doing wrong?

[Oltier 471]

I am trying to up my DPS and cannot. I fellow Arcane mage is killing me , and while that is cool. I just wondering what I am doing wrong?

You should open a topic in the mage forums.

[Guest Kataii]

In the macros section for arc mages. the cool down macro calls for a Jade serpent flask. Should that be updated to  a dreanic intel flask?

[Guest Kjersleif]

Are you not supposed to cast AM during the burn phase? It makes sense to cast AM while AP is still up, but then my mana never gets low enough to warrant evocation. And you write that one should have 3 stacks of missiles ready before burn phase. Am I missing something?

[Oltier 471]

Are you not supposed to cast AM during the burn phase? It makes sense to cast AM while AP is still up, but then my mana never gets low enough to warrant evocation. And you write that one should have 3 stacks of missiles ready before burn phase. Am I missing something?

As the guide says:

During burn phase, the spell priority stays the same. AM>AB

The difference is, during the burn phase, you never cast Arcane Barrage.

If you don't get AM procs, you just keep spamming AB until 50% mana, even after AP is over, so you can make use of Evocation.

[Guest Guest]

 

During burn phase, the spell priority stays the same. AM>AB

 

As in "priority stays the same" do you mean we should still use only 1 out of the 3 procs of AM?

It's hard to see the priority with the same eyes since during conservation phase AM can also be used to extend your stay in the >90% mana while burn phase, well, it's to let the world burn on your arcane mana powaah.

I've been having issues with that during the burn phases, at times I use only the 1 proc to avoiding wasting new ones, and sometimes I use em all (cycling with Blasts) to extend the time it will take to reach the 50% mana mark.

Most of the time I manage to get at least 1 more Nova in between to fish for another AM proc and only hit the Evo when there is no other option but what is "the right way" of managing AM during burn phases stays a mystery to me. 

In the guide is made clear that you should start the burning procedures with 3 AM stacks but it is not really mentioned in the rotation where they should be fitted.

[Oltier 471]

The theory is the same.

 

You should use the AMs whenever possible to stay on as high mana as possible.

 

If you are on max stacks os AM, you definitely use AM. You don't want to waste AM procs.

But, if you don't have max stacks and you are already on 100% mana, then you should rather use an AB, so that you don't "waste" mana.

 

The point is: The spell priority stays the same during burn phase, but you NEVER use Arcane Barrage in there. Keep using your spell arsenal, like you would normally, but never use Arcane Barrage. Once you go below 50% mana, cast Evocation go back to 100% and start the converse phase.

 

During Burn phase it is still beneficial to stay on as high mana as possible.

[Guest MonkeysInc]

I am new to the World of Warcraft. Like many of the most recent WoW players I was instantly boosted to level 90. I have since raised my level to 100. I want to be the best Arcane mage I possibly can but after only two months of playing my DPS is still quite horrible. Around 13k DPS in a raid I believe. Reading these forums and guids is a bit of a help but alot of times I have no idea whats being talked about. Where would be a better place for me to gather information?

 

[Guest sawboss]

im wondering as arcane stat become  (with 4 piece and archimonde trinket)

haste>Multi/mastery>crit>vers

 

and frost stats will become

multistrike>haste/crit>mastery

 

isnt it smarter to stack like alot of haste/multistrike-haste/mastery gear for both specs so you dont have to switch around with ger alot as the tier items will be the same bis and the trinkets are the same bis for both specs

[Oltier 471]

I am new to the World of Warcraft. Like many of the most recent WoW players I was instantly boosted to level 90. I have since raised my level to 100. I want to be the best Arcane mage I possibly can but after only two months of playing my DPS is still quite horrible. Around 13k DPS in a raid I believe. Reading these forums and guids is a bit of a help but alot of times I have no idea whats being talked about. Where would be a better place for me to gather information?

I don't think there is a better possible place for beginners than this website. Everything is explained with an easy-to-understand English, and links to the spell descriptions. If this is not enough, then You should try looking for video guides on youtube. Maybe there you can see the rotations in action. Also in our forums, there is a topic for arcane magi about "how to analyze your own dps".

[Guest Oogahound]

Hey! I've been thinking.

*DISCLAIMER* : I've always loved Arcane Barrage. I try to make it work every patch since they changed it from a nuke to effectivly a stack reset tool*

 

From my testing, it seems that multistrike can trigger on Arcane Barrage's secondary targets.

 

Now, I have a theory, and im not sure about it, but can mutli-strikes trigger Arcane Missiles? If so, would a spec trading Haste for Multistrike whose main rotation is Arcane Missile Arcane Barrage spam have any chance of working?

[Oltier 471]

Hey! I've been thinking.

*DISCLAIMER* : I've always loved Arcane Barrage. I try to make it work every patch since they changed it from a nuke to effectivly a stack reset tool*

 

From my testing, it seems that multistrike can trigger on Arcane Barrage's secondary targets.

 

Now, I have a theory, and im not sure about it, but can mutli-strikes trigger Arcane Missiles? If so, would a spec trading Haste for Multistrike whose main rotation is Arcane Missile Arcane Barrage spam have any chance of working?

Yes, of course could be working. But with a signifficant DPS loss. The rotation we (or other theory crafters from altered-time) are providing has been tested thoroughly in game and by simulation craft and it is the one that gives you the highest DPS. 

[Guest Guest]

Sorry for spliting this into two comments, but, does Multistrike WORK on arcane mages? I really enjoy watching double attacks go off. 

 

Could I stack Multistrike as an arcane mage without sacrificing dps?