Highmaul Warlock Style - Normal, Heroic, & Mythic

[juribe 1]

  On 12/15/2014 at 1:39 AM, Lockybalboa said:

Posted in the Aff thread, this information is wrong. Going through logs and living testing now I'm getting the DMF proc from DoTs.

I was on Weds. Tonight I went full boss fights without it, 5+ minutes of just dots on target dummy and no procs.

[Lockybalboa 618]

Well this is weird...got a proc off my first UA cast and now rolling DoTs for 7 min with no procs....so...ya...

[juribe 1]

  On 12/15/2014 at 1:46 AM, Lockybalboa said:

Well this is weird...got a proc off my first UA cast and now rolling DoTs for 7 min with no procs....so...ya...

Maybe it procs on the initial dmg? but not ticks? idk

[Lockybalboa 618]

Screw blizzard. I mean, really. Breaking something like this mid week. Screw them.

 

Good find dude, thanks for bringing it up here. I'm going go poke a few pins in to my Celestalon voodoo doll.

[Nytemare 2]

When we take Cata as a destro for the fights it recommend on, do we keep GoSup or do we switch back to GoSac?

[Lockybalboa 618]

First keep in mind that the recommendations are not set in stone and are based on low data samples for now.

I've been sticking with gosup even when using cata

[Nytemare 2]

  On 12/15/2014 at 5:16 AM, Lockybalboa said:

First keep in mind that the recommendations are not set in stone and are based on low data samples for now.

I've been sticking with gosup even when using cata

 

Yeah of course, I been just sticking to DS + CoSupp but figure I would this week try out the option suggested, so I was wondering if I should keep GoSup or do GoSac. Also is Observer still pet of choice with GoSupp if you not doing DS? or has maybe imp taken over. Feel both work, but not sure.

[Liquidsteel 279]

Use whichever pet you want / need based on the encounter.

[Oldtrout 7]

I was noticing as demo and even destruction that my sandman's was really dicking me over last night. I'm going to blame it for getting me knocked into the tiger pit on our mythic kargath kill. Yup.

[Liquidsteel 279]

I ditched it for the hc runestone I coined. Can't be arsed with ICD trinkets anymore.

[Copperbad 5]

I'd just like to confirm that Dark Bargain still works when getting the shield in Ko'ragh

 

 

[Zagam 1,982]

  On 12/15/2014 at 5:50 PM, Copperbad said:

I'd just like to confirm that Dark Bargain still works when getting the shield in Ko'ragh

LOL, how bad did that DoT hurt?

[Liquidsteel 279]

 

 

Some more PoV's for you

[Copperbad 5]

  On 12/15/2014 at 6:41 PM, Zagam said:

LOL, how bad did that DoT hurt?

 

Honest question, sorry for my ignorance. It was mentioned previously in this thread and I just thought i'd check. The damage from standing in that barrier pierces alot of abilities. 

[Gnar 26]

  On 12/15/2014 at 6:58 PM, Copperbad said:

Honest question, sorry for my ignorance. It was mentioned previously in this thread and I just thought i'd check. The damage from standing in that barrier pierces alot of abilities. 

 It is suppose to pierce all mitigation to require basically raw heals only.  Apparently Dark Bargains false immunity leaves it on the table but yeah I imagine that that DoT it applies as the 50% damage you took over 8 sec either needs to be bomb healed or you have to let it bleed out part of your ball shield timing it right. You could also probably Paladin cheese that with Purity since the DoT your Dark Bargain applies is susceptible to mitigation abilities.

[Zagam 1,982]

  On 12/15/2014 at 8:44 PM, Gnar said:

 It is suppose to pierce all mitigation to require basically raw heals only.  Apparently Dark Bargains false immunity leaves it on the table but yeah I imagine that that DoT it applies as the 50% damage you took over 8 sec either needs to be bomb healed or you have to let it bleed out part of your ball shield timing it right. You could also probably Paladin cheese that with Purity since the DoT your Dark Bargain applies is susceptible to mitigation abilities.

It would be impossible to survive without HUGE adjustments needed.  I believe the hit from Overflowing does 1,500,000 damage?  If true, you'd take 50% of that over 8 seconds, or 750,000/8 = 93,750.  No healer, or 5 healers, in the game could heal you through 93,750 HPS over 8 seconds without completely laying waste to their mana pool.  Purity would reduce this to a reasonable amount (60% reduction?) so it'd go down to 50k per second, but that's still the Warlock's entire HP pool 1.5x over.  I don't know exact numbers, so I could be off on all of that.

[Copperbad 5]

 Thanks for helping me understand that gents. Just to clarify, I meant the damage of acquiring the shield, not catching an orb.

 

 

  On 12/3/2014 at 9:36 PM, Baifer said:

Dark Bargain on Ko'Ragh is incredibly useful if you are someone who needs to get the shield. 

 

 I guess he just didn't actually test this?

Edited December 16, 2014 by Copperbad

[Gnar 26]

  On 12/15/2014 at 8:57 PM, Zagam said:

It would be impossible to survive without HUGE adjustments needed.  I believe the hit from Overflowing does 1,500,000 damage?  If true, you'd take 50% of that over 8 seconds, or 750,000/8 = 93,750.  No healer, or 5 healers, in the game could heal you through 93,750 HPS over 8 seconds without completely laying waste to their mana pool.  Purity would reduce this to a reasonable amount (60% reduction?) so it'd go down to 50k per second, but that's still the Warlock's entire HP pool 1.5x over.  I don't know exact numbers, so I could be off on all of that.

 

No sane person would ever try this.  Just spitballing some random ideas.

[Zagam 1,982]

  On 12/16/2014 at 4:48 AM, Gnar said:

No sane person would ever try this.  Just spitballing some random ideas.

I would try.  I will try.  Can confirm insane in the membrane.

[Gnar 26]

  On 12/16/2014 at 12:52 PM, Zagam said:

I would try.  I will try.  Can confirm insane in the membrane.

 (Insane in the brain!)

[Vile 9]

For how long is Ko'ragh channeling the shield thingy? Should be useful information for timing Dark Bargain properly. I'm soaking third every Ko'ragh fight (which is by far the most hectic one iirc) so I'm sure my healers would appreciate me utilizing this trick.

[Astynax 24]

  On 12/16/2014 at 7:22 PM, Vile said:

For how long is Ko'ragh channeling the shield thingy? Should be useful information for timing Dark Bargain properly. I'm soaking third every Ko'ragh fight (which is by far the most hectic one iirc) so I'm sure my healers would appreciate me utilizing this trick.

 

Don't use Dark bargain if you're soaking. (Don't ever use it, but especially not if you're soaking.) Since Ko'Ragh's caustic energy pierces all reductions and immunities. SacPac should generally be your go-to choice, and succh is the case in this fight, reducing basicaly all of your HP in damage, lightening the load on healers at any time throughout the fight.

 

Edit for sake of not being a dick: his shield charge is 20 sec.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Astynax

[Vile 9]

  On 12/16/2014 at 7:35 PM, Astynax said:

Don't use Dark bargain if you're soaking. (Don't ever use it, but especially not if you're soaking.) Since Ko'Ragh's caustic energy pierces all reductions and immunities. SacPac should generally be your go-to choice, and succh is the case in this fight, reducing basicaly all of your HP in damage, lightening the load on healers at any time throughout the fight.

Wait, so me popping the 20% reduc in there is of no help at all? I thought only the balls pierced reductions... Thanks for the info!

[Liquidsteel 279]

I use SacPact with Dark Regeneration and Glyphed Healthstone.

[Astynax 24]

  On 12/16/2014 at 7:46 PM, Liquidsteel said:

I use SacPact with Dark Regeneration and Glyphed Healthstone.

 

AKA "YOU FOOLS!! I AM IMMORTAL!! I AM ETERNAL!! YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!"