tecfall 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 Hey guys, my guild is currently running 2 resto shamans. When it comes to running mythic though we are gonna be only running one. I want to be that one shaman but currently i am lagging about 3-4k hps behind the other shaman. I am hoping i can maybe get a bit of help figuring out what I am doing wrong when there is only a small ilvl difference. Any help is much appreciated. Guild Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/r6pDJPYvRTbgA4QM#type=healing My Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bleeding-hollow/Tecsuport/advanced Other Shammy Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bleeding-hollow/Campbell/advanced Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Normia 2 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 Well i would firstly advice reading Reasto healing in WoD thread, its long but well worth it. About what might be actual problem, its information only for 1 fight, were u healing in up in where u get thrown and kill adds or both healing at down makes kinda huge diffrence. But I would suggest not to use riptide glyph and use UF instead of PE. Also switching Ancestral Swiftness to Echo of Elements and using UL boosted with UF when using riptide and healing wave, also helps on healing and is also quite mana efficient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tecfall 0 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 We were both on the bottom. Also https://www.warcraftlogs.com/guilds/17136/is the rest of the guild logs, i was in on most of the wed butcher wipes as well to give a bit more info. Also thanks for the tips so far Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Normia 2 Report post Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Main thing what i noticed on butcher was your lack of healing rain on butcher. I my self thinks its boss fight made kinda for that spell. if tanks always take boss back to same spot it has really good healing uptime. I my self dont like using chain heal too much on that fight, costs too much mana, maybe after boss is below 30% so i can give that healing boost needed to last unlin the end of fight, also if u use healing rain, u should use CBT instead of HT at least in my opinion. Altho if u seem to have enough mana i think u can use HT and spam away with chain heal, but my spirit dosnt approve with it . im always oom on our hc fights. Edited December 5, 2014 by Normia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sagnuts 1 Report post Posted December 7, 2014 I think that you're psyching yourself out. Healing is not dps'ing. You have a dps mentality. And with that, you may be better off letting the other guy heal while you dps for mythic. Healing is not about numbers. It's about efficiency. Selecting your targets for heals because you know your priority. And if you're scrambling to cram as many numbers into skada as you can so you can win, you aren't being efficient. Because when the fights get harder in mythic, and mythic is going to be harder than heroic used to be, inefficiency is not going to help you at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stoove 347 Report post Posted December 7, 2014 While Sagnuts has a point, I don't think that you should give up on healing. You just need to take to heart that being a good healer isn't entirely about how much healing you do - it's about how well you co-operate with your other healers and how well your healing mechanics are down. With that in mind, I'll give you a few tips which hopefully will benefit your play overall. You're obviously not using Cloudburst Totem as often as you should, and the same goes for Healing Stream Totem. This is the easiest healing you can get, and so you should be doing whatever you can to make sure to get CBT and HST down on cooldown. You cast HST only 7 times and CBT a worrying 2 times. You can get both of them in up to 12 times in that log you linked. You should be aiming for 10+ casts as a minimum. Let's talk about your Riptide usage. You've got Glyph of Riptide specced, but what are you using it for? The best case for using Glyph of Riptide is to ensure that you have a lot of Chain Heal targets, especially in combo with High Tide, but you aren't casting Chain Heal enough to make it worth it. Riptide is a great spell, but when you Glyph it you lose a lot of its healing power. If you just want to Riptide more often for Tidal Waves, take Echo of the Elements instead. Why's this important? Look at your fellow RSham - their Riptide healing was actually worse (fewer casts), but the upfront healing ended up netting them so much healing that they equaled you on healing done for Riptide. I would guess that they are also choosing their Riptide targets a little better - you want to make sure to hit as low hp players as possible to get the most of your Mastery and the HoT ticks. Actually, looking at your list of casts - you shouldn't be casting Riptide more than you're casting Healing Wave - keep a ratio of about 2 HW's for each Riptide as a rough guide. Cooldowns - you used Spirit Link Totem (great!) but you didn't use Healing Tide Totem as much as your other RSham, which accounts for a lot of healing overall. Make sure to plan when you want to use your cooldowns like this and use them as planned. The same goes for Ascendance. RShaman have a lot of cooldowns, and maximum use of these is essential to keeping the raid alive. I hope that gets you started! :) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tecfall 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 Thanks very much i will try some of this out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
