Storm's Unholy Rotation Helper (Weak Auras)

[Zilthy 36]

Personally, I just track Blood Boil separately.  When there are multiple targets, use it. :D

 

As far as trying to get it going with an AOE rotation that would change based on number of targets in range, I do not think that this will be able to be done reliably, at least from withing WA alone.  Although a custom trigger could be created using the combat log, it would end up being very convoluted and unreliable at best.

 

There is just not a good way to get X targets in Y range.

[Drac0 0]

Now it works very well on single. Gj man !

[kevow 0]

Hello,

I want to say thank you for making this. Its realy helping me out as a starting uh dk.

Im just having some downtime issues. When i do my rotation without the program, i almost have no downtime... But when i use it, it gives me allot of downtime at some points.

But still great job

[Storm 426]

There should be some downtime, mostly because of fewer Runic Corruption procs when you're saving Runic Power for Dark Transformation.

 

But if there's something you think I can change to make it better let me know, and I'll see if I can make it work in the weak aura.

[Jasonkay 0]

Hi storm

Thank you for taking the time to make and upload these aruas They are awesome!

Just a request , is it possible in the next update to add a icon for Necrotic Plague which removed the icons for Bp and FF as these are negated by taking the NP talent and if it could make FS pop up to make us aware to refresh that would be amazing!!

Thanks again!

[Storm 426]

There shouldn't be any icons appearing for Blood Plague or Frost Fever anyways, the weak aura just displays the ability you should hit. so whether blood plague is missing, or necrotic it'll tell you to either outbreak or plague strike.

 

It should be easy to add a condition for Festering strike to put it top priority when Necrotic has less than 5 seconds remaining. I have to do some more testing with Unholy, I totally missed the patch notes whenever they made it so festering strike can refresh the duration of necrotic. the first few people I heard talking about it I thought they were mistaken. but apparently I just missed something.15 stack necrotic that we can keep up with festering strike could definitely be better than defile.

[Jasonkay 0]

Thanks storm for your reply

Yeah NP is extremely powerful at 15 stacks on a fight like tectus and even twins.

Look froward to the next update

Thanks again

[DukeSilver 0]

Thank you so much for this, Storm. Previously, I was using 2h Frost and not really enjoying it due to all the downtime I feel that I have with the rotation. I felt a bit daunted by the Unholy rotation, and your WA setup really has helped me a ton.

 

I just have one question, though, as the IV guide doesn't specify. How many targets should be in range before I'm using BB for AoE damage? I assume its beneficial to hit it at least once to spread diseases, to even just one additional target, but is it beneficial to use BB over SS with Death Runes with only one other target up? It looks like SS on one target does more damage than BB does on 2 from what I can tell.

 

Thank you to anyone who is able to help me out with this!

[Storm 426]

Looking at my logs it only takes 2 targets for BB to be a dps gain. Blood boil hits for about 9k on average. scourge strike is 9k on the main hit, and 6k on the secondary shadow damage hit. So at 2 targets blood boil is a small dps gain, and at 3+ targets it's a huge gain.

 

Unfortunately I still haven't found a way to get weak auras to track when there are 2 targets in range to change the roation, but basically any time there are 2+ targets you'll want to get your frost runes changed to death runes with festering strike, and then just keep spamming BB, which will keep them as death runes the whole time.

[Storm 426]

I've been playing frost for a week and haven't put any work into the unholy aura in the last week or so, but I'm going to be switching back to unholy and with that doing some more work to perfect the unholy aura. On my list of things to do is better support for necrotic plague, which will includes a condition to tell you to festering strike to extend the duration when it's getting low. and I'd assume most likely with a 15 stack necrotic plague build, plague leech will probably need to be altered to only be used if necrotic is about to fall off and you don't have runes for festering. It'll take some testing to figure out what's best with necrotic and if it's really better than defile now, but expect an update sometime tonight.

[mgibbonsjr 2]

Just wanted to thank you for this awesome WA. Similar to a post above, I also saw a 1500 K DPS increase on single target rotations. 

 

Thank you!

[kevow 0]

After getting used to this program, i must say my dps has gone up from 11.3k up to 17k sometimes !! (beginning player)

ty for making this.

[thearken 0]

Thanks a lot for this weak aura. I got a 1-2k dps boost :D

I tried to detect the free Death Coil proc but found nothing to do so.

 

TheArken

[Storm 426]

Sudden doom, one of the auras in the set tracks sudden doom procs to tell you do death coil.

[Jasonkay 0]

Hey Storm

 

Just wondering if the update has been posted?

thanks

[Axis 2]

Here's my current multi-target rotation helper, it's a simple modification of Storm's above - for fights like Brackenspore, Tectus, etc, I run it alongside Storm's original one, and pick one to look at based on how many targets I'm currently hitting. In theory, it's this one for 2+.

 

This is a Leech/Defile version only. Main difference is it uses blood boil instead of scourge strike, where it can (prioritises BB unless both unholy runes are available), and uses icy touch instead of festering to get rid of frost runes.

 

Incidentally, massive thanks to Storm for his various rotation helpers. I've found them really, really useful - and they've really helped me learn WA configuration).

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Whenever i try and import the string the box that pops up says import diabled and i cant get it to work :(

 

Any help?

[Lusitan 2]

Here's my current multi-target rotation helper, it's a simple modification of Storm's above - for fights like Brackenspore, Tectus, etc, I run it alongside Storm's original one, and pick one to look at based on how many targets I'm currently hitting. In theory, it's this one for 2+.

 

This is a Leech/Defile version only. Main difference is it uses blood boil instead of scourge strike, where it can (prioritises BB unless both unholy runes are available), and uses icy touch instead of festering to get rid of frost runes.

 

Incidentally, massive thanks to Storm for his various rotation helpers. I've found them really, really useful - and they've really helped me learn WA configuration).

(How do I do spoiler tags? That would be polite...)

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There fixed it for ya

[Nekhii 0]

Is there anyway to make these work using NP over defile? For some bosses NP are way better atm.

[Axis 2]

Storm had suggested he was going to be updating it to include NP over last weekend, but obviously something else came up.

Shouldn't be too hard to get any given algorithm working properly, now he's put the pieces in place - but I have to admit I'm not happy I know the best rotation to use with NP. If you can outline a solid algorithm for single-target and for the 2-5 target cleave situations we're seeing, I'll have a shot at implementing them.

[Storm 426]

Ya, sorry guys I've been really busy with work, holidays, and trying to get a new guild off the ground and raiding. I'll get the unholy aura updated for sure in the next day or so.

[Storm 426]

Updates 12/24/14:

 

- Thought I had done more to track Necrotic plague already, but apparently I did it for Frost, but not Unholy. all abilities that had blood plague conditions now also have the same condition for necrotic plague

- Added Death and Decay to cd's aura in place of Defile when using Necrotic Plague

- Added an extra icon/condition for Festering strike and made it high priority when Necrotic Plague has < 10 seconds remaining.

- Added Unholy presence tracker to CD's aura (Don't ask me why I sometimes switch to blood presence to tank the boss for 15 secs during a wipe, but when I do I almost always forget to switch back to unholy on the next pull)

- Added Death Strike with a Dark Succor condition. It's a free attack, and there are a lot of add fights, so I figured we may as well track it for some free dps and heals.

- If using Plague Leech and Necrotic Plague, you will only be told to plague leech if there is less than 5 seconds remaining on Necrotic Plague. I need to to more testing to figure out proper usage for plague leech with necrotic plague, but I'm assuming leeching a full 15 stack necrotic is a bad idea.

[Nekhii 0]

Thanks Storm seems to work almost prefect, sometimes it seems to get messed what to prioritise and don't show any skills at all but then just have to look at runes and hit what is best and it get going again.

 

Seems to be something with Festering Strike but I can't seem to fix the issue.

 

Now just need Axis to update the AE one and I be set for a while

Edited December 25, 2014 by Nekhii

[Axis 2]

Between festive stuff, and the emergency vet ( ) I'm kinda busy today, but I'll have a crack at adding an AoE twist to the new version soon.

* Obviously, still running a second stack of abilities, and expecting the user to pick the appropriate one, depending on the number of targets.

* Needs to use Blood Boil in place of Plague Strike to soak up spare Death (or Blood) runes.

* Festering to use up Ice runes, not Icy Touch (because that extra tick time is *probably* worth keeping. Maybe go back to BB + IT if duration is >20s or so. I dunno. Any insight? That BB is clearly worth more if it won't risk FP dropping...)

* Plague Leech pretty much on cooldown (soon as the runes are available) - since it doesn't cost us our stack for long.

* Won't be able to tell if there are adds with stacks of NP hanging around, such that NP will be replaced on your current target automatically (or when BB is pressed). Not really sure how to handle that one. Will need some user awareness. (Probably have to make sure the next ability is displayed as well, and tell the user to skip the disease replacement if they know it's not needed).

* Gonna try that lot, then blitz through LFR a couple of times to test it. Updates maybe Saturday?

(Obviously, if Storm wants to have a crack at this, I'll happily step back - but it's something I want for my own raiding, so...)

[Axis 2]

I have a test version of this writen, but the rotation as described above isn't doing it for me on training dummies. I simply can't get enough Festering Strikes in to keep the same 15-stack rolling and still work in more than a trivial number of BBs. If we're happy for it to drop off, that's another matter of course (obvious downsides: less DPS. Possibly so much it's not worth the trouble).

Anyone actually use Leech/NP in a cleave situation, and want to go through their rotation/priorities?