leech6590 1 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 All Mages are on the low end of the spectrum, and will be receiving buffs. Frost, the most played spec, is a lot lower than they'd like. The necessity of Crit on Fire Mages is problematic early on. They'll figure out a way to adjust it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimage 98 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 Just to show the source 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tapif 10 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) Oh wow on one hand i am really happy that we are getting a buff, on the other hand, i was so desperate with my arcane mage that i changed to frost this week end, including rerolling the crafted gears stats and changing all the enchants Well, let's wait and see then. Edited December 8, 2014 by tapif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigersharrk 4 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 Glad I stayed true to Arcane...let see what goes down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hekii 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 Glad I stayed true to Arcane...let see what goes down. Same here buddy. i really hope that the new numbers compensate for heavy movement fights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 And I was raping the meters as frost in our last raid. Yeaa, buff me more buff meee! :P 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berlinia 168 Report post Posted December 8, 2014 I'll be happy if we have 3 classes that can actually compete :/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 Mage Arcane Arcane Barrage's damage has increased by 16%. Arcane Blast's damage has increased by 16%. Arcane Explosion's damage has increased by 10%. Arcane Missiles' damage has increased by 16%. Fire Enhanced Pyrotechnics now causes a stacking 10% increased critical strike chance (up from 5% per stack). Molten Armor now increases spell critical strike chance by 15% (up from 5%). Frost Frostbolt's damage has increased by 25%. Talents Arcane Orb's (Arcane) damage has increased by 10%. Comet Storm's (Frost) damage has increased by 25%. Meteor’s (Fire) damage-over-time effect has increased by 25%. Nether Tempest's (Arcane) damage has increased by 10%. Supernova's (Arcane) damage has increased by 12%. Happy now, guys? :P 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brewmonksta 157 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 OMG NERF MAGES QQ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigersharrk 4 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 Yeah thats sounds awesome...dunno if the damage boost still makes AO viable tho. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skrub 7 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 I wouldn't take AO for the damage, more the utility as a way to get high stacks to allow the other buffed spells to go nuts :D I'm excited about teh Noodlebolt 25% buff though, means we might actually be able to count it as a spell again hahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leech6590 1 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 cleared 7/7 normal 2 night as fire, im doing sustained dmg like a frost mage now, WOOT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berlinia 168 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 cleared 7/7 normal 2 night as fire, im doing sustained dmg like a frost mage now, WOOT Changes aren't live yet though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hekii 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) cleared 7/7 normal 2 night as fire, im doing sustained dmg like a frost mage now, WOOT noob frost mage ? before changes im topping the meters(on the butcher) as arcane =] i cant wait for the simulations edit: i found the simulations we're back on top baby source: http://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/archive_html/1418113617_Raid_T17M.html.gz Edited December 9, 2014 by Hekii Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ziaru 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 When are these changes going live? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 noob frost mage ? before changes im topping the meters(on the butcher) as arcane =] i cant wait for the simulations edit: i found the simulations we're back on top baby source: http://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/archive_html/1418113617_Raid_T17M.html.gz A bit overbuff on Arcane? :P Doesn't matter, frost for life! :D 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tapif 10 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 Changes aren't live yet though Apparently they are live for the US Servers, but not for the europeans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hekii 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 Apparently they are live for the US Servers, but not for the europeans. i heard they were but i havent checked yet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 9, 2014 Yeah baby ! Back to Fire ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leech6590 1 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 it was live on the US maybe an hour after post, just the tooltip didnt update. anyone with a fire spec/gear should have seen significant crit increase last night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Event 1 Report post Posted December 9, 2014 source: http://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/archive_html/1418113617_Raid_T17M.html.gz This looks great, but I am skeptical that arcane and fire will stay that far ahead. Blizzard generally purposely overtunes us, then adjusts accordingly. That being the case, I won't put a ton of weight in the results of sims using the current buffed state with the future 4-piece, when there is likely to be a nerf within a week or so. Mages being that far ahead is obviously not what Blizzard would consider to be 'balance', but I think they're aiming for about 4 classes (and the dps specializations of each) to be about even on DPS, give or take 800 DPS (1k would bring out some hardcore QQ). I reaaaally want to play fire, and I'm sure many want to play arcane, but I won't be breaking the Gold/GP bank quite yet. I've been holding gear from heroics and such that didn't work with frost, but if I'm not doing reliable damage as fire *right now* (i.e. not in a sim many months from now with BRF and tier), I couldn't justify changing. That being said, if, while playing as the spec I enjoy most, I am less than 1k DPS behind our top spec at that point in time, I will stay with what I like. Your guild has to be running a lot of carries for like 500dps across the board (~7k) to make or break an encounter. Key points of the rant: -WOOT! Fire and Arcane! -Don't put all your Rylak eggs into one nest yet, because a nerf WILL come; (ex. the buff to Fire a few weeks prior to WoD, when it could top meters with little to no effort, and was followed about a week later by a ~15% nerf) -Test in game, because live data, not simulations, will determine the scope of [future] nerfs and/or buffs **Any class/spec with DPS 5% or more over the next highest (Arcane is 6.7% higher than Warriors in this sim) has no hope of keeping such a margin.** //rant <3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powerade 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2014 Hi guys, easy question: Are frost buff hotfixes live on eu servers?I still do tooltip dmg with my frostbolt and if I change to fire my enhanced pyrotechnics still indicate a 5% buff after each noncritical hit/molten armor is a 5% buff, so I don't think they upgraded the tooltip yet.Anyone has any clue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted December 12, 2014 Hi guys, easy question: Are frost buff hotfixes live on eu servers? I still do tooltip dmg with my frostbolt and if I change to fire my enhanced pyrotechnics still indicate a 5% buff after each noncritical hit/molten armor is a 5% buff, so I don't think they upgraded the tooltip yet. Anyone has any clue? Tooltop updates require some patching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powerade 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2014 Yeah, but I keep doing tooltip dmg with frostbolt :/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berlinia 168 Report post Posted December 12, 2014 yea they live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
