causevha 1 Report post Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) 1) According to simcraft it's the best setup but simcraft contains items that are not accessible yet so.... do I take those talents for all bosses? 2) If I have 88% ish mana, 4 stacks of arcane charge and 1 arcane missiles proc during conserve phase, do I use arcane missile to get to 93%+ and use arcane blast afterwards? 3) What trinket should I get? 1. http://www.wowhead.com/item=111228/vorherrschaftsinsignie-des-wilden-gladiators(20s buff) 2. http://www.wowhead.com/item=113859&bonus=0 (normal) In case the PvP item is better, does it change if I had HC Quiescent Runestone? Edited December 28, 2014 by causevha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted December 28, 2014 1) According to simcraft it's the best setup but simcraft contains items that are not accessible yet so.... do I take those talents for all bosses? 2) If I have 88% ish mana, 4 stacks of arcane charge and 1 arcane missiles proc during conserve phase, do I use arcane missile to get to 93%+ and use arcane blast afterwards? 1. Simcraft is a tool, not a guide. Use it for your needs to sim your theories. (with your own gear, etc..) 2. From Berlinia's guide: https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/7256-arcane-berlinias-arcane-mage-guide-for-t17/ "2. Cast Arcane Blast when you have more than 93% Mana at the start of your cast, and you have 4 stacks of Arcane Charge." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
causevha 1 Report post Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) From Berlinia's guide: https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/7256-arcane-berlinias-arcane-mage-guide-for-t17/ "2. Cast Arcane Blast when you have more than 93% Mana at the start of your cast, and you have 4 stacks of Arcane Charge." Question was about the "1" arcane missile procc, do I keep it or do I cast arcane barrage. It was not very clear from the guide or I'm highh Edited December 28, 2014 by causevha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted December 28, 2014 The list there is a priority list, not rotation list: 1. Cast Arcane Missiles when you have 3 stacks of Arcane Missiles!. 2. Cast Arcane Blast when you have more than 93% Mana at the start of your cast, and you have 4 stacks of Arcane Charge. 3. Cast Arcane Missiles when you are at 4 stacks of Arcane Charge 4. Cast Arcane Barrage at 4 stacks of Arcane Charge 5. Cast Arcane Blast This is the very basis of the Conserve Phase. Essentially what you do at this phase is that you: a. Build Arcane Charge stacks with Arcane Blast or Arcane Missiles to prevent capping, b. Use your Arcane Missiles at 4 stacks of Arcane Charge, except if over 93% Mana; then you cast Arcane Blast , c. Use Arcane Barrage to reset your Arcane Charges. This means, before each cast, you want to take the following questions to yourself in this order, and if any of them is true, you do that and don't even consider the lesser priority ones. Am I at 3 stacks of AM? --> Cast AM. Otherwise: Do I have more than 93% and 4 stacks of AC? --> Cast AB. Otherwise: Am I at 4 stacks of AC and do I have AM proc? --> Cast AM. Otherwise: Am I at 4 stacks of AC and do I have less than 93% mana, and I don't have any AM procs? --> Cast ABarr. Otherwise: Do I have less than 4 stacks of AC, less than 3 stacks of AM? --> Cast AB. I hope it's more clear now :) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted December 28, 2014 Question 3: www.askmrrobot.com should tell you the exact answer, but I'd blindly say, that Imperator trinket is better. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
causevha 1 Report post Posted December 29, 2014 So if I have 3 AM procs and 4 AC procs I should cast 1 AM and continue with AB until I have 3 AM proccs again? That's hard LOL Seems like pvp trinket is garbage. Ty for ur time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oltier 471 Report post Posted December 29, 2014 So if I have 3 AM procs and 4 AC procs I should cast 1 AM and continue with AB until I have 3 AM proccs again? That's hard LOL Seems like pvp trinket is garbage. Ty for ur time No! Well, not exactly. If you have 3 AM procs and 4 ACs, you cast 1 AM, because of no.1. Then, you will have more than 93% mana, so u cast AB according to no. 2. Once you drop under 93% mana, that means you should act according to no.3. so u cast AM, no matter how many stacks you have. If you didn't have any AM at this point, you ABarr according to no. 4. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
causevha 1 Report post Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) 1) and if i'm at 85% mana with >3 stacks of AM and >4 stacks of AB, do I use AB? 2) once i've put down my crystal while having 3 AM proccs, do I use all three AM proccs immediately or do I cast AB after reaching 97-100% mana and afterwards the remaining AM proccs? Edited January 8, 2015 by causevha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berlinia 168 Report post Posted January 10, 2015 1) What's your no1 priority. 2) What's the priority list? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
causevha 1 Report post Posted January 13, 2015 1) What's your no1 priority. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berlinia 168 Report post Posted January 13, 2015 :P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites