Drtain 74 Report post Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) I'm not talking about what ice veins tells us here cause I don't really believe what icy veins says is correct on the matter I'm talking. Okay so I've been testing out all the specs for 100 and the tier with living bomb, My conclusion here is that prismatic crystal is better than meteor meteor is very underwhelming honestly after a fight (also looking at high end fire mage logs) it only does like 2-400k depending on rng and how many targets. I've been testing out prismatic crystal and from what I've been doing u wait til u get 1 insta pyro, 2 blast waves, 1 heating up and combust, you can cast fireball>pyro>into pyro again most likely assumng it crits> if that pyro crits u then cast inferno> pyro>combust> inferno blast then double blast wave. the last inferno blast spreads the combust to the boss (if u don't get any crits than u just spread it anyways but yeah it's a little rng i guess, the combust does 30% more damage than it did if u just used it on the boss normally because that's how prismatic crystal works. Obviously since i'm saying blast wave in the segment i just said I think blastwave is the best of the 3, (also everythign else u do in the prismatic crystal is buffed so therefore TLDR u do 30% more damage for 12 seconds basically)Also if ur blast wave is an AoE meaning it hits the boss twice once off the spell it's self and once of prismatic crystal (i'm not 100% on that last blastwave thing i just said just thought I need to test it more on test dummies). Sorry if this kinda seems like a run on sentence but yeah. Has anyone done any testing them selves with fire? (also this build with prismatic crystal isn't a HUGE dps gain but it's noteable and I've noticed my dps is a bit higher 500-2.5k depending how much rng likes me during prismatic crystal, I'll post some logs for this build at some point I want to get more than just a couple of fights before posting some) Edited December 28, 2014 by Drtain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leech6590 1 Report post Posted December 29, 2014 Well the guide does suggestion once we get our 4 piece, PC is the ideal talent to choose since we have constant pyro crits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drtain 74 Report post Posted December 29, 2014 that's in blackrock I'm talking currently speaking when there is no way to get blackrock gear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Berlinia 168 Report post Posted December 29, 2014 The reason meteor is being suggested is because it applies ignite. This means you can use it to very much enhance the power of your combustions. Before 4set meteor is pretty much the only choice as it deals more damage (combustion enhancement included) both on single and on multy target. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchmagoz 30 Report post Posted December 29, 2014 PC looks stronger than it is in your damage meter, for a big reason: All the damage you're doing on the crystal is shown as crystal damage, whereas normally you would've done that damage straight to the boss, just with 30% less damage. So even if PC shows as like 20% damage, keep in mind, that usually like 50-70% of that total 20% damage would've happened anyway. The reason PC is worse than meteor until 4pc is pretty simple: we don't get enough pyroblasts to build a decent combustion on the crystal. You can, at most, get 2 pyros in a row on the crystal (without 4pc), whereas you can get 3 + meteor onto the boss if you didn't choose PC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drtain 74 Report post Posted December 30, 2014 The average hit for a meteor really isn't that high it's from what i've seen from 650-660 fire mages hits somewhere about 20-40k depending on trinket procs and etc which figure around 25ish% mastery is only 4-9k ignite 9k ignite wouldn't happen to often because that's pretty close to being a perfect one as well as it has to account other damaging abilities and it's possible to get 3 pyros in a row on a crystal without you're 4 piece and I also realize why ur crystal looks like it does alot but I think the 30% extra damage is better compared to ur 30k + a around a 2-5k ticking dot left over for a couple second every 45 seconds (figure that's about 80k in the end maybe 90k every 1 min 30 seconds which is the cd compared to crystal) I on average pump about 300-500k depending on my rng with crits, then the 30% harder hitting combust is >= meteor I will say if u get a garbage combust it's useless but depending on ur crit u can get atleast 2 pyros for combust 90% of the time if not 3 I'm not saying for 100% sure that crystal is better but i've noticed a small/noticeable dps increase. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites