Damien 1,514 Report post Posted November 13, 2012 This thread is for comments about our Tsulong encounter guide. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vyxaryx 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2012 During Night phase Sunbeams will spawn on internal circle of area disregarding to boss position. So it is better to have raid standing spread inside internal circle while tanking boss facing away of that area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad 411 Report post Posted November 15, 2012 During Night phase Sunbeams will spawn on internal circle of area disregarding to boss position. So it is better to have raid standing spread inside internal circle while tanking boss facing away of that area. Thank you very much! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krazyito 521 Report post Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) We found it most useful to assign one healer to focus on dispelling Tsulong (a priest or a shaman that can heal with the dispel) while everyone else dispelled the raid. Healers should also try to figure out how to maximize their healing buffs on Tsulong within 6 second. Do not spam your Flash Heal equivalent because you only get a 25% mana boost each time the breath happens. When you don't have the sun breath buff, try to keep up a single target healing rotation as much as you can. Refresh all your HoT's before the sun breath buff goes away, Monk's Life Cocoon helps a lot with all the hots being put onto the boss as well as a priests Guardian Spirit basically any tank CD that increases healing done, helps immensely. Edited November 20, 2012 by krazyito65 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fel 42 Report post Posted November 21, 2012 Something worth noting, credit to the maintankadin community for the find, and confirmed by my own wologs investigations: Paladin's Lay on Hands does NOT heal the boss. Your ability will go on CD, the boss will gain forbearance, but no actual healing will occur to Tsulong. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad 411 Report post Posted November 21, 2012 We found it most useful to assign one healer to focus on dispelling Tsulong (a priest or a shaman that can heal with the dispel) while everyone else dispelled the raid. Healers should also try to figure out how to maximize their healing buffs on Tsulong within 6 second. Do not spam your Flash Heal equivalent because you only get a 25% mana boost each time the breath happens. When you don't have the sun breath buff, try to keep up a single target healing rotation as much as you can. Refresh all your HoT's before the sun breath buff goes away, Monk's Life Cocoon helps a lot with all the hots being put onto the boss as well as a priests Guardian Spirit basically any tank CD that increases healing done, helps immensely. Something worth noting, credit to the maintankadin community for the find, and confirmed by my own wologs investigations: Paladin's Lay on Hands does NOT heal the boss. Your ability will go on CD, the boss will gain forbearance, but no actual healing will occur to Tsulong. Thanks guys, I will incorporate both these things into the guide :) (if you can provide a link to the maintankadin thread/post about the issue, I can reference it) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krazyito 521 Report post Posted November 21, 2012 Here is a proof on the Lay on Hands thing: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-d5l9fxq48bjqirin/xe/?s=2194&e=2689&x=Spell+%3D+%22Lay+on+Hands%22 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fel 42 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 Hey Vlad, The thread I was referencing: http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=33177 3rd post down by Bellanka. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Finn Report post Posted November 22, 2012 um, what happens with the Untable Shas that are still up when the transition to night happens? do they still try to reach the boss and 'dmg' him? (actually helping your raid) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad 411 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 um, what happens with the Untable Shas that are still up when the transition to night happens? do they still try to reach the boss and 'dmg' him? (actually helping your raid) I don't actually know. If someone else does, perhaps they can post. I'll try to see in LFR. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelTheys 10 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 yes the unstable sha's stay alive until they die :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad 411 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 yes the unstable sha's stay alive until they die But what do they do when reaching the boss in the Night Phase? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelTheys 10 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 But what do they do when reaching the boss in the Night Phase? guess the opposite off what they do during day. It was in LFR i saw it but they quite of died a 2-3sec after night phase started. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Boltar Report post Posted November 26, 2012 The unstable Sha's will damage the boss in Day, but they WILL heal the boss in night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad 411 Report post Posted December 2, 2012 Thank you! Adding it to the guide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fel 42 Report post Posted December 3, 2012 Random Holy Paladin tidbits for those interested: 1) Beacon him immediately upon reaching Day Phase. Any EFs you have rolling on the raid will start trickling into him right away. 2) Divine Favor is extremely powerful since it will reduce your Flash of Light to ~1 sec, allowing you to spam the hell out of him during the 6 second breath buff. 3) Combining DF with Avenging Wrath is a nice little boost and you probably wont need it anywhere lse during the fight. 4) Combining GoAK with the other two is also great, though you can really only use it once on the fight so you need to plan it well. 5) Glyph of Flash of light is a nice boost for Tsulong heals. 6) Stay of Execution can be used twice per day phase, nicely aligned with a breath and other CDs, and does a metric f*ckton of healing to him. 7) Pool your HoPo via tower of radiance and HS prior to a breath, and you can: FoS/EF/FoS/EF during the breath, nicely getting the +10% buff from Flash onto your EFs. If you can save an Infusion of Light proc, you can replace one of the FoS with a DL for added sexytimes. 8) The direct heal component of EF will far outheal the HoT component, so I dont believe it's worth it to get a huge breath-boosted EF HoT ticking and then not overwrite it until the next breath. Since you're spamming (more or less) during this phase anyway, you want to make full use of your mana-free heals. 9) Draenai can use their Gift of the Naaru to do a piddly amount of free healing to him for luls. I believe most of what I've stated above is accurate and should provide some pretty straightforward ways to max out your heals during his breaths on Day phases, just based on my own logs investigations of the past couple weeks. Hope it's useful, and if i'm wrong anywhere please dont hesitate to point it out! Cheers, 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronos 5 Report post Posted December 4, 2012 Can anyone confirm that bubble can remove stacks of shadow breath? Wondering if solo tanking is a possibility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronos 5 Report post Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) Bubble doesnt reset EITHER dread shadows or shadow breath stacks. Just had our bear solo tank, he ate the first two breaths. After resetting my stacks, I taunted as a ret pali just before the third breath with unglyphed divine protection. Easy with three healers. Tank retaunted right after and took last/fourth breath. The breath debuff does increase the damage taken from dread shadows, so keep your stacks low. Solo tanking does work. Edited December 6, 2012 by Chronos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad 411 Report post Posted December 6, 2012 Bubble doesnt reset EITHER dread shadows or shadow breath stacks. Just had our bear solo tank, he ate the first two breaths. After resetting my stacks, I taunted as a ret pali just before the third breath with unglyphed divine protection. Easy with three healers. Tank retaunted right after and took last/fourth breath. The breath debuff does increase the damage taken from dread shadows, so keep your stacks low. Solo tanking does work. That's really useful. I will add it to the guide. Thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thop0488 Report post Posted December 12, 2012 when switching to day phase he always turns toward the center Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad 411 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 when switching to day phase he always turns toward the center Thank you :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoacaBogdan 23 Report post Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) Imagine this scenario. As Holy Priest, in Serenity Chakra, I cast Renew right before the 6 second buff is about to expire. Since the chakra allows my direct heals to refresh Renew, will the refreshed HoT maintain its 500% increase or go back to the normal healing numbers ? I would test this myself, but I am on holiday at the moment and no WoW for me until 2013. Edited December 20, 2012 by MoacaBogdan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krazyito 521 Report post Posted December 20, 2012 Someone told me from the beginning that your heals dynamically change with the buff, your hots don't snapshot your stats Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites