Priest Hero Talents — The War Within (11.0.5)
This guide will walk you through the best Hero Talents for Discipline Priest for Raiding and Mythic+, how they impact your gameplay, and more.
Best Hero Talents for Discipline Priest in The War Within
This page is specifically about Hero Talents in The War Within. If you want to learn more about the best regular talents for Discipline Priest, check out our Talents page:
Raiding Hero Talents for Discipline Priest
Voidweaver will be your best and default Hero Talent choice for raiding content as a Discipline Priest. Entropic Rift triggering on cast of Mind Blast means we can have a fairly high uptime on the rift during an encounter granting us access to significant power on a short cooldown.
The Entropic Rift (along with Collapsing Void) itself deals a large amount of damage (and therefore provides a large amount of Atonement healing), Void Blast combined with its supporting talent Void Infusion provides a massive improvement over smite (especially considering this damage is now shadow damage and is therefore amped by Shadow Covenant and Abyssal Reverie), and Voidheart provides a flat 20% increase to Atonement healing while the rift is active. All of these factors and more lead to a large boost in healing both during and outside pet windows allowing Discipline to feel like they have options available for throughput even if your pet is unavailable.
Oracle is an alternative for raiding, although not as easy to get value out of. Expect to be Voidweaver in most scenarios. The vast majority of the power within this tree comes from two things.
First, Premonition itself granting various buffs in a cycle. The big one to look out for here is Premonition of Piety which gives a large healing amp and overheal redistribution. With the cooldown reduction from Perfect Vision bringing Premonition down to a 45 second cooldown and Clairvoyance coming after Premonition of Solace, you can have Piety up (either through itself or via clarvoyance) every minute and a half, which lines up perfectly with Evangelism.
Second, Preventive Measures providing a 40% amplification to Penance damage also increases the power of Ultimate Penitence. As a result, investing in Heaven's Wrath and Overloaded with Light becomes very powerful as Oracle.
Overall, the burst available with Premonition only barely matches up with the burst available via Voidweaver, even when considering a scenario where you can take Fatebender over the cooldown reduction. As a result, the only scenarios you can really expect to see this tree used are scenarios where both the frequent burst available in Voidweaver is less valuable and you can make good use of Ultimate Penitence's ability to ramp multiple times in quick succession.
Mythic+ Hero Talents for Discipline Priest
Voidweaver will be your best and default Hero Tree Talent choice for Mythic Plus content as a Discipline Priest. Voidweaver provides significant burst via the Entropic Rift itself, Void Blast being a significant upgrade to Smite, and Voidheart being a large Atonement buff. With all of these tools being tied to Mind Blast, you will have access to them very frequently to meet the constant incoming damage requirements of a Mythic Plus Environement as well as being significantly less reliant on having your pet available to do any relevant healing.
Unfortunately due to the nature of incoming damage in Mythic Plus being fairly constant, the lack of throughput this tree provides in comparison to the frequency that Voidweaver can, and overheal redistribution via Premonition of Piety being less impactful in a five man environment compared to in raid, it is not recommended to use this tree in Mythic Plus.
Best Hero Talent Builds for Discipline Priest
Best Voidweaver Raid Build for Discipline Priest
Voidweaver does not have many choices to make in the tree. No Escape can have niche usage if there are adds that need to be slowed, but by default taking the movement speed increase via Dark Energy will be the better choice with how low mobility Priest already is. Voidwraith is a significantly stronger version of our existing pets Shadowfiend and Mindbender and will almost always be the better choice compared to Depth of Shadows. In raid Void Empowerment is taken less so because the node itself is strong, but because Darkening Horizon will often push your Collapsing Void out of your higher Atonement count within your ramps. In Mythic plus, with ramping not a thing due to group size, the longer duration rift via Darkening Horizon provides some extra value and will be the default.
From a defensive perspective within Voidweaver, Void Leech will be your default choice, but Embrace the Shadow has potential in situations where a large amount of the damage taken is Shadow damage.
Best Oracle Raid Build for Discipline Priest
For choices within Oracle for raiding, Waste No Time will often be an HPS loss due to front loading the Power Word: Radiance Atonement's to the beginning of the GCD instead of the end, so unless its enabling you to cast Radiance's where you would otherwise be unable to cast them, it is harmful to be talented into Waste No Time. Divine Feathers will be the default option for personal movement speed. The actual effect of being able to give your feather to another person can potentially be utilized, but you need to ensure that the party member you're trying to give the feather to doesn't avoid the feather somehow resulting in you not getting your much needed mobility. As a result, its highly recommended to just continue using the Angelic Feather's for yourself and talenting into Divine Feathers for the additional 10% movement speed. Save the Day can be used depending on the scenario if Double Leap of Faith has value.
Perfect Vision will be the default here to allow Premonition to line up well with Evangelism. In scenarios where Evangelism is not being used on cooldown and is being held to 2 minutes or slightly longer, Fatebender can be taken instead to provide a significant power increase to the various buffs. Defensively Desperate Measures is a solid default option, allowing your Desperate Prayer to last longer. Either choice here is fine depending on how often you find yourself needing to cast Power Word: Shield or Flash Heal on yourself.
Hero Talents Rotation for Discipline Priest
Almost no changes occure rotation wise when playing Voidweaver as most of the value happens passively. There are a few things to keep in mind, however.
- Many situations with no pet active can now be covered soley with a Mind Blast window due to the various Voidweaver effects it activates.
- Voidwraith modifies the cooldown of Shadowfiend, so in situations where you're utilizing Shadowfiend and Voidweaver at the same time, you gain access to some additional potential pet cadences.
- In non- Evangelism ramps, you will see Mind Blast getting cast earlier than usual to ensure the Collapsing Void occurs while a large number of Atonement's are still active.
The Main changes for Oracle revolve around when and how to utilize the various Premonition buffs.
- With Perfect Vision allowing Premonition to be a 45 second cooldown, you end up with two charges of Premonition available for every Evangelismcast.
- Due to the order of the buffs, if you utilize the Premonition charges in groups of two with each Evangelism, you will have Premonition of Piety and Premonition of Insight available every time either via themselves or via Clairvoyance.
- Premonition of Insight will result in you being able to send many Penance casts rapidly in your Evangelism window.
Changelog
- 21 Oct. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 11.0.5.
- 09 Sep. 2024: Reviewed for The War Within Season 1.
- 21 Aug. 2024: Updated for The War Within Release.
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