Fire Mage DPS Mythic+ Tips — The War Within (11.1.0)
In this guide, you will find tips and advice to tackle Mythic+ dungeons with your Fire Mage in World of Warcraft — The War Within (11.1.0).
Best Mythic+ Talents for Fire Mage in The War Within
Flamestrike based AoE versus Cleave based AoE builds
Fire has the option to choose between 2 main AoE builds:
- Cleave Based AoE Build;
Flamestrike AoE Build;
The Cleave based build almost never casts Flamestrike, and instead does its
AoE damage by doing its single target rotation and spreading
Mastery: Ignite
and doing AoE damage via
Firefall and
Living Bomb.
Due to this, it does better priority target damage, at the cost of some AoE
damage. It also does better boss damage.
The cleave build does still pick up Quickflame, but this does not
mean you should actively cast
Flamestrike. Flamestrike should only
be used on low health large groups of enemies. Enemies that live longer should
be cleaved down by doing the single-target rotation. You can drop this one
point in Quickflame for any other single-target point of your choosing
if you do not expect any low health enemies in the content you are doing.
The Flamestrike based build is almost identical to the cleave based
build, swapping only
Firefall into
Fevered Incantation.
You only do this because Firefall has almost no value if you are going
to be spamming Flamestrike. The Flamestrike based rotation does more damage
on AoE at the cost of doing significantly less priority target damage.
Both builds are relatively close boss damage.
Note that it is only worth casting Flamestrike from 5 targets and onwards,
so going the Flamestrike based build is never worth it if you will not fight
more than 5 targets.
Which build you go highly depends on the damage your group needs. If you are doing content where you do not fight more than 5 targets, you should always go the cleave based build. The cleave build will do best single-target and priority damage, whereas the Flamestrike based build will do more AoE damage. If you are unsure, I recommend the cleave based build.
Cleave Based AoE Build
Flamestrike Based AoE Build
Flexible Talents
- Swap between the
Flamestrike and Cleave based builds based on the type of damage profile you need for your current dungeon.
- Replace
Mass Barrier for
Mass Invisibility if your dungeon route requires the ability to skip enemy packs and have no one else providing the group with invisibility (a Rogue or using potions).
- Swap in/out of
Remove Curse for any defensive talent of your choice when there are no Curses to dispel in the dungeon, you plan to do, or if someone else will handle the dispelling.
- Swap in/out of
Spellsteal for any defensive talent of your choice when there are no buffs worth dispelling in the dungeon you plan to do.
- Take
Ring of Frost or
Ice Nova if you need any more crowd-control, at the cost of any of your defensives.
- Replace
Blast Wave for any defensive talent of your choosing if you do not need the crowd-control.
- Opt out of
Ice Cold (and the nodes leading to it) for any defensive nodes of your choosing if you need the immunity of
Ice Block for the dungeon you are doing.
Affix Tips, Tricks and Management for Fire Mage in The War Within Season 2
This section has Mage-specific tips for dealing with the various affixes of Mythic+. If you want general guides for each of our Dungeons or Mythic+ in general, check out our dedicated page below.
Affix Guide for Fire Mage in The War Within
Ascendant Affix Management for Fire Mage
Blast Wave and
Dragon's Breath /
Supernova are great at handling this affix.
Pulsar Affix Management for Fire Mage
You can soak these without losing any health by activating Alter Time right before soaking them.
If Alter Time is not available, using any other defensive, especially
Prismatic Barrier
should make them easy to survive as well.
Devour Affix Management for Fire Mage
Remove Curse should be used to remove
Void Rift.
Fire Mage Utility In Mythic+
The main reason to bring a Fire Mage to a Mythic+ group is for its damage, but aside from that, it also has some very valuable utility, which makes every Mythic+ group want at least one Mage:
Arcane Intellect is a big boost for both the other caster DPS in the group, as well as additional healing for the healer.
Time Warp is a required cooldown for any Mythic+ group.
Remove Curse can be useful to dispel Curses in some dungeons.
- A Fire Mage can add a lot of crowd control in the form of
Dragon's Breath,
Polymorph,
Blast Wave,
Ice Nova,
Ring of Frost, or even
Mass Slow.
Spellsteal can be useful in some dungeons to remove dangerous buffs from enemy targets. Sometimes, it can also be used as a big DPS boost for the Arcane Mage by Spellstealing beneficial buffs that increase your damage.
Mass Barrier can be brought as a decent defensive cooldown for the group.
Mass Invisibility can be very useful to skip certain packs.
Changelog
- 24 Feb. 2025: Updated best talents for 11.1 changes, updated affix tips for new affixes.
- 15 Dec. 2024: Updated for Patch 11.0.7.
- 26 Nov. 2024: Updated talents for the latest buffs.
- 21 Oct. 2024: Updated talents and split viable talents up into 3 different builds. Also added dungeon specific tips.
- 02 Oct. 2024: Updated Flamestrike vs Ignite choice to further emphasize that Flamestrike does more overall DPS.
- 24 Sep. 2024: Added Flamestrike based aoe builds now that it is more viable due to the latest buffs
- 09 Sep. 2024: Updated for TWW Season 1.
- 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
- 22 Apr. 2024: Updated best talents based on Season 4 changes.
- 19 Mar. 2024: Updated for Patch 10.2.6., splitting up the different M+ builds into separate boxes so they take up less space and can be viewed more easily.
- 09 Mar. 2024: Updated suggested Mythic+ talents slightly, and added more information on picking between Ignite vs Flamestrike builds.
- 15 Jan. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.5.
- 06 Nov. 2023: Updated talents for 10.2.
- 04 Sep. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.1.7
- 01 Aug. 2023: Updated talent choice between improved scorch and critical mass instead of meteor.
- 10 Jul. 2023: Updated talents suggestions, rotation and utility for after the 10.1.5 Fire rework.
- 12 Jun. 2023: Fix talent import string.
- 01 May 2023: Updated talents based on new optimal talents and removed mentions to the Flamestrike build as it is now too behind to consider, and removed mentions about thundering.
- 20 Mar. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7 and provided some small phrasing tweaks.
- 24 Jan. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 11 Dec. 2022: Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 28 Nov. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 24 Oct. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight pre-patch.
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This guide has been written by Dutchmagoz. Dutchmagoz is a Mythic raider in one of the top raiding guilds, Turtles and the owner of the Mage Discord server, Altered Time, where he is involved in all things Mage, and you can reach out to him directly for feedback or questions about the guide.
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