Fire Mage DPS Mythic+ Tips — The War Within (11.1.0)
In this guide, you will find tips and advice to tackle Mythic+ dungeons with your Fire Mage in World of Warcraft — The War Within (11.1.0).
Best Mythic+ Talents for Fire Mage in The War Within
Note: Lessons in Debilitation can ninja pull enemies you are not
in combat with in some specific instances. It is generally preferred to run this
talent whenever possible since it is better than
Gravity Lapse,
but make sure to spec out of it in Theater of Pain
and Cinderbrew Meadery.
Flamestrike based AoE versus Cleave based AoE builds
Fire has the option to choose between 2 main AoE builds:
- Cleave Based AoE Build;
Flamestrike AoE Build;
The Cleave based build almost never casts Flamestrike, and instead does its
AoE damage by doing its single target rotation and spreading
Mastery: Ignite
and doing AoE damage via
Firefall and
Living Bomb.
Due to this, it does better priority target damage, at the cost of some AoE
damage. It also does better boss damage.
The cleave build does still pick up Quickflame, but this does not
mean you should actively cast
Flamestrike. Flamestrike should only
be used on low health large groups of enemies. Enemies that live longer should
be cleaved down by doing the single-target rotation. You can drop this one
point in Quickflame for any other single-target point of your choosing
if you do not expect any low health enemies in the content you are doing.
The Flamestrike based build is almost identical to the cleave based
build, swapping only
Firefall into
Fevered Incantation.
You only do this because Firefall has almost no value if you are going
to be spamming Flamestrike. The Flamestrike based rotation does more damage
on AoE at the cost of doing significantly less priority target damage.
Both builds are relatively close boss damage.
Note that it is only worth casting Flamestrike from 5 targets and onwards,
so going the Flamestrike based build is never worth it if you will not fight
more than 5 targets.
Which build you go highly depends on the damage your group needs. If you are doing content where you do not fight more than 5 targets, you should always go the cleave based build. The cleave build will do best single-target and priority damage, whereas the Flamestrike based build will do more AoE damage. If you are unsure, I recommend the cleave based build.
Cleave Based AoE Build
Flamestrike Based AoE Build
Flexible Talents
- Swap between the
Flamestrike and Cleave based builds based on the type of damage profile you need for your current dungeon.
- Replace
Mass Barrier for
Mass Invisibility if your dungeon route requires the ability to skip enemy packs and have no one else providing the group with invisibility (a Rogue or using potions).
- Swap in/out of
Remove Curse for any defensive talent of your choice when there are no Curses to dispel in the dungeon, you plan to do, or if someone else will handle the dispelling.
- Swap in/out of
Spellsteal for any defensive talent of your choice when there are no buffs worth dispelling in the dungeon you plan to do.
- Take
Ring of Frost or
Ice Nova if you need any more crowd-control, at the cost of any of your defensives.
- Replace
Blast Wave for any defensive talent of your choosing if you do not need the crowd-control.
- Opt out of
Ice Cold (and the nodes leading to it) for any defensive nodes of your choosing if you need the immunity of
Ice Block for the dungeon you are doing.
Dungeon Tips and Tricks for Fire Mage for The War Within Season 2
This section has Mage-specific tips and tricks that may not seem obvious, for all dungeons' bosses and mobs. Generic tips or guides for the dungeons are not included here.
Mythic+ Tips for Fire Mage in The War Within Season 2
Make sure to spec out of Lessons in Debilitation into
Gravity Lapse
here since Lessons in Debilitation can ninja pull enemies in this dungeon.
Bosses
I'pa
We do not currently have boss specific tips for this dungeon.
Trash
- Venture Co. Pyromaniac:
Greater Invisibility will immediately interrupt
Boiling Flames.
- Royal Jelly Purveyor:
Honey Volley can be removed via
Energized Barriers.
- Flavor Scientist:
Rejuvenating Honey can be stolen with
Spellsteal.
Bosses
We do not currently have boss specific tips for this dungeon.
Trash
- Sootsnout:
Greater Invisibility makes
Flaming Tether target someone else.
- Torchsnarl:
Greater Invisibility immediately cancels
One-Hand Headlock.
Bosses
Big M.O.M.M.A.
- You can
Shimmer over
Sonic Boom.
Swampface
- During
Razorchoke Vines, be careful with using
Shimmer as it will count as moving 14 yards and will pull the linked player to you.
Trash
- Disturbed Kelp: You can
Spellsteal
Restorative Algae.
- Venture Co. Surveyor: You can
Greater Invisibility
Surveying Beam to immediately cancel it.
Bosses
K.U.-J.O.
Explosive Leap can be completely negated via
Greater Invisibility. It targets the furthest player first, so make sure you are the furthest player away, and while the boss is mid air, cast Greater Invisibility, completely cancelling the ability for you and everyone else. If you are not the furthest or do not have Greater Invisibility ready, you can avoid the damage with
Shimmer, but this will not cancel the ability for the rest of the group.
King Mechagon
Greater Invisibility cancels
Mega-Zap on you.
Trash
- Mechagon Mechanic:
Spellsteal
Overclock for a haste buff.
- Defense Bot Mk III:
Spellsteal
Defensive Countermeasure for a big shield.
- Loaderbot:
Wind Up can be interrupted via
Dragon's Breath and
Blast Wave.
Bosses
Captain Dailcry
Savage Mauling can be cancelled via
Greater Invisibility.
Baron Braunpyke
Castigator's Shield can be removed via
Energized Barriers.
Prioress Murrpray
The Sacred Flame will target someone else if you use
Greater Invisibility.
Trash
- Zealous Templar:
Spellsteal
Templar's Wrath for a big damage bonus.
- War Lynx:
Pounce can be interrupted during the cast via crowd-control, including roots like
Frost Nova. It can also be dodged via
Shimmer.
- Lightspawn:
Purification gets cancelled by
Greater Invisibility.
- Sergeant Shaynemail: Use
Shimmer to avoid
Lunging Strike.
- Arathi Footman: You can interrupt
Defend with
Dragon's Breath and
Blast Wave.
Bosses
Azerokk
Azerite Infusion can be temporarily dropped via
Greater Invisibility, but it continues when the invisibility ends.
Rixxa Fluxflame
Azerite Catalyst can be fully interrupted and stop the puddles from spawning by using
Greater Invisibility.
Propellant Blast also gets cancelled by
Greater Invisibility, but try to avoid this, as it will stop it from clearing the pools on the floor.
Mogul Razdunk
Homing Missile can be cancelled by casting
Greater Invisibility by casting it before the cast finishes. If the cast finished, casting Greater Invisibility will make the Missile immediately explode on the spot, so be careful activating it late.
Trash
- Stonefury:
Spellsteal
Tectonic Barrier for a big shield.
- Venture Co. Mastermind:
Greater Invisibility can be used to cancel
Mind Lash.
Bosses
We do not currently have boss specific tips for this dungeon.
Trash
- Corrupted Oracle:
Void Shell can be stolen with
Spellsteal for a big shield.
- Unruly Stormrook:
Energized Barrage can be cancelled with
Greater Invisibility.
- Cursed Thunderer:
Lightning-Infused can be stolen with
Spellsteal for a cast speed buff.
- Corrupted Oracle:
Seeping Corruption can be dispelled with
Remove Curse.
Make sure to spec out of Lessons in Debilitation into
Gravity Lapse
here since Lessons in Debilitation can ninja pull enemies in this dungeon.
Bosses
We do not currently have boss specific tips for this dungeon.
Trash
- Minibosses (Advent Nevermore + Harugia):
Ricocheting Blade can be cancelled via
Greater Invisibility.
- Shackled Soul:
Bind Soul can be cancelled with
Energized Barriers.
- Portal Guardian: You can dispell
Shadow Vulnerability with
Remove Curse.
- Nefarious Deathspeaker: You can dispell
Curse of Desolation with
Remove Curse.
- Bone Magus: You can
Spellsteal
Bone Shield for a big shield. Note that it sets you to 50% health. You can counteract this by activating
Alter Time before Spellsteal and then re-activating it after, but since this shield is so big, it is usually overkill.
- Battlefield Ritualist: You can
Spellsteal
Unholy Fervor to stop it from healing.
Affix Tips, Tricks and Management for Fire Mage in The War Within Season 2
This section has Mage-specific tips for dealing with the various affixes of Mythic+. If you want general guides for each of our Dungeons or Mythic+ in general, check out our dedicated page below.
Affix Guide for Fire Mage in The War Within
Ascendant Affix Management for Fire Mage
Blast Wave and
Dragon's Breath /
Supernova are great at handling this affix.
Pulsar Affix Management for Fire Mage
You can soak these without losing any health by activating Alter Time right before soaking them.
If Alter Time is not available, using any other defensive, especially
Prismatic Barrier
should make them easy to survive as well.
Devour Affix Management for Fire Mage
Remove Curse should be used to remove
Void Rift.
Fire Mage Utility In Mythic+
The main reason to bring a Fire Mage to a Mythic+ group is for its damage, but aside from that, it also has some very valuable utility, which makes every Mythic+ group want at least one Mage:
Arcane Intellect is a big boost for both the other caster DPS in the group, as well as additional healing for the healer.
Time Warp is a required cooldown for any Mythic+ group.
Remove Curse can be useful to dispel Curses in some dungeons.
- A Fire Mage can add a lot of crowd control in the form of
Dragon's Breath,
Polymorph,
Blast Wave,
Ice Nova,
Ring of Frost, or even
Mass Slow.
Spellsteal can be useful in some dungeons to remove dangerous buffs from enemy targets. Sometimes, it can also be used as a big DPS boost for the Arcane Mage by Spellstealing beneficial buffs that increase your damage.
Mass Barrier can be brought as a decent defensive cooldown for the group.
Mass Invisibility can be very useful to skip certain packs.
Changelog
- 30 Mar. 2025: Add warning to not spec into Lessons in Deblitation for TOP+Brew.
- 22 Mar. 2025: Removed wind up interrupt tip as they cannot be interrupted by disorients.
- 14 Mar. 2025: Added tips for all dungeons.
- 24 Feb. 2025: Updated best talents for 11.1 changes, updated affix tips for new affixes.
- 15 Dec. 2024: Updated for Patch 11.0.7.
- 26 Nov. 2024: Updated talents for the latest buffs.
- 21 Oct. 2024: Updated talents and split viable talents up into 3 different builds. Also added dungeon specific tips.
- 02 Oct. 2024: Updated Flamestrike vs Ignite choice to further emphasize that Flamestrike does more overall DPS.
- 24 Sep. 2024: Added Flamestrike based aoe builds now that it is more viable due to the latest buffs
- 09 Sep. 2024: Updated for TWW Season 1.
- 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
- 22 Apr. 2024: Updated best talents based on Season 4 changes.
- 19 Mar. 2024: Updated for Patch 10.2.6., splitting up the different M+ builds into separate boxes so they take up less space and can be viewed more easily.
- 09 Mar. 2024: Updated suggested Mythic+ talents slightly, and added more information on picking between Ignite vs Flamestrike builds.
- 15 Jan. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.5.
- 06 Nov. 2023: Updated talents for 10.2.
- 04 Sep. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.1.7
- 01 Aug. 2023: Updated talent choice between improved scorch and critical mass instead of meteor.
- 10 Jul. 2023: Updated talents suggestions, rotation and utility for after the 10.1.5 Fire rework.
- 12 Jun. 2023: Fix talent import string.
- 01 May 2023: Updated talents based on new optimal talents and removed mentions to the Flamestrike build as it is now too behind to consider, and removed mentions about thundering.
- 20 Mar. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7 and provided some small phrasing tweaks.
- 24 Jan. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 11 Dec. 2022: Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 28 Nov. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 24 Oct. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight pre-patch.
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This guide has been written by Dutchmagoz. Dutchmagoz is a Mythic raider in one of the top raiding guilds, Turtles and the owner of the Mage Discord server, Altered Time, where he is involved in all things Mage, and you can reach out to him directly for feedback or questions about the guide.
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