Mage Hero Talents — The War Within (11.0.7)
This guide will walk you through the best Hero Talents for Frost Mage for Raiding and Mythic+, how they impact your gameplay, and more.
Best Hero Talents for Frost Mage in The War Within
This page is specifically about Hero Talents in The War Within. If you want to learn more about the best regular talents for Frost Mage, check out our Talents page:
Raiding Hero Talents for Frost Mage
Frostfire
Frostfire is perfectly viable in raid, although slightly behind
Spellslinger's single target if you play a modified version.
Spellslinger
Spellslinger is functionally tied with
Frostfire in
single target, unless you play a slight variant that sacrifices all cleave for
about 3% more single target damage.
Mythic+ Hero Talents for Frost Mage
Frostfire
Frostfire is slightly behind in Mythic+, but not so far as to be
unusable, like raid. Unfortunately, it does rely on
Death's Chill, which
means that it has both ramping damage during your cooldowns and is even more
sensitive to tank movement than usual due to
Isothermic Core.
Defensively, it is a solid pick, with the only defensive talent being a flat
boost to our Ice Barrier with no caveats. Likewise, from a utility
standpoint, a cooldown reduction on
Blast Wave and
Dragon's Breath is a very welcome addition, even with the reduction in
the importance of non-interrupt-based stops.
Spellslinger
Spellslinger is extremely strong in AoE, with
Spellfrost Teachings resetting
Frozen Orb repeatedly with a bit
of luck.
Defensively, Spellslinger has the potential to be stronger, but
both options are tied to either
Mirror Image or learning how to game
your health to maximize the value of
Reactive Barrier. The utility node
is simply a sprint attached to
Alter Time for its duration, which is a
strong option, or a
Displacement improvement, which is a class talent
that we cannot really take due to position.
Best Hero Talent Builds for Frost Mage
Best
Frostfire Pure Single-Target Build for Frost Mage
Frostfire has for the most part, one option in throughput.
Thermal Conditioning is the better sustained throughput option. The other two choice nodes are defensive and utility, so pick which you like best.
Best
Frostfire Mythic+ Build for Frost Mage
Frostfire for Mythic+ simply takes
Severe Temperatures to maximize
Frostfire Empowerment damage.
Best
Spellslinger Build for Frost Mage
Spellslinger has no real options in any set.
Unerring Proficiency loses out in every situation to
Volatile Magic.
Reactive Barrier and
Phantasmal Image is a personal choice. Phantasmal is easier to get value out of as long as you are casting
Mirror Image, where Reactive Barrier requires you actually watch your health and optimize
Ice Barrier casting.
Slippery Slinging is taken because you do not have the points to take
Displacement unless you sacrifice a lot of defensive utility.
Signature Spell is a massive gain over
Shifting Shards and allows for
Glacial Spike to provide benefits to this Hero Talent.
Hero Talents Rotation for Frost Mage
Frostfire
Frostfire has no real interaction with your rotation. It simply
plays as if it had no Hero Talents other than the occasional instant
Frostfire Bolt replacing your usual filler Frostfire Bolt.
Despite the Excess Frost and
Excess Fire buffs lighting up
your
Flurry and
Ice Lance keys, you should not fire these
without their associated procs available. Or, in Flurry's case, it is lit up
while you have no charge available. If this annoys you, consider addons to turn
off the glow effects outside of the usual proc circumstances.
There is no need to add any Fire element spells to the rotation, such as
Fire Blast, as
Frostfire Infusion has a hasted 30 RPPM proc
rate. This means that it will, on average, proc every just under 2 seconds. You
will cap out your buffs as long as you are casting any spells at all.
Spellslinger
The important component of this spec are Frozen Orb is now a proc
reset, via
Spellfrost Teachings.
Otherwise, the spec is primarily passive bonuses to what you already are trying to do.
Changelog
- 15 Dec. 2024: Reviewed for 11.0.7.
- 27 Oct. 2024: Updated with new theory for 11.0.5.
- 21 Oct. 2024: Updated for 11.0.5.
- 09 Sep. 2024: Updated for The War Within Season 1.
- 21 Aug. 2024: Page added.
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This guide has been written by Kuni, one of the best Frost Mages in the world, who raids in Mortal Desire.
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