Warrior Hero Talents — The War Within (11.0.7)
This guide will walk you through the best Hero Talents for Protection Warrior for Raiding and Mythic+, how they impact your gameplay, and more.
Best Hero Talents for Protection Warrior in The War Within
This page is specifically about Hero Talents in The War Within. If you want to learn more about the best regular talents for Protection Warrior, check out our Talents page:
To see how the Hero Talents change our rotation, take a look at the Protection Warrior Rotation page:
Hero Talents for Protection Warrior
Mountain Thane and
Colossus bring their own
strengths and weaknesses to Raiding and Mythic+. They are both designed very
differently, which provides some much-needed freshness to the class. That said,
Mountain Thane is the one that seems to be designed with Protection
Warrior in mind. Its well-roundedness is what makes it a better all-around choice.
For Raiding, Mountain Thane and
Colossus
are both valid choices. Mountain Thane is the safer option, thanks to the
extra Rage generation, while Colossus can potentially be the more offensive
choice with specific talents.
For Mythic+, Mountain Thane is the winner. The damage profile
and frequency of
Thunder Blast, in addition to the extra Rage it provides,
make it the better all-around performer in keys.
Colossus is also
playable but requires more thought and Rage management to be pulled off
properly.
Raiding and Mythic+ Hero Talents as Protection Warrior
As Mountain Thane, the Hero Talents focus on amplifying your already existing
abilities. The most noticeable one is turning
Thunder Clap into
Thunder Blast.
The strength, and why the tree is better designed for ProtectionWarriors, is
how the talents themselves interact with each other.
Burst of Power allows
Lightning Strikes to proc
Shield Slam;
Strategist can proc
Shield Slam;
Shield Slam can proc
Thunder Blast;
Thunder Blast can proc
Lightning Strikes thanks to
Flashing Skies;
As shown in the list above, the whole tree creates a positive
Rage feedback loop while maintaining our rotational fluidness.
The better Rage economy is what mainly sets Mountain Thane
and
Colossus apart.
Raiding and Mythic+ as Mountain Thane
Mountain Thane is the best middle-ground choice for raiding and Mythic+.
While the damage output it provides might be slightly smaller than what
Colossus brings to the table, it makes up for it by being a defensively
better option. As Mountain Thane, we generate a lot more Rage compared to
Colossus, which in turn leads to more
Anger Management,
Indomitable
and
Violent Outburst value.
Thunder Blast deals a lot of damage, regardless of the target count,
while also generating Rage. Gaining 2
Thunder Blast procs each time we use
Avatar guarantees predictable burst windows on a fairly short cooldown, thanks to
Anger Management. Mountain Thane's heavy emphasis on
Shield Slam and
Thunder Clap also means that our whole rotation feels a lot smoother
and faster.
Talent notes for Mountain Thane
From talents side, Mountain Thane prefers to use Champion's Spear,
and its following nodes:
Piercing Challenge and
Champion's Might.
This will give you more damage output than
Thunderous Roar while also
giving you even more Rage to play around with.
Avatar of the Storm also grants
you 2x
Thunder Blast each time you use
Avatar, which in turn means
that you can synchronize your burst windows together with
Champion's Spear.
Key talent differences from Colossus can be found below.
Champion's Spear instead of
Thunderous Roar;
Champion's Might instead of
Thunderous Words;
Piercing Challenge instead of
Uproar;
- Picks
Unstoppable Force;
You can still play Thunderous Roar as
Mountain Thane,
but you might not perform as well.
Colossus, similarly to
Mountain Thane, has one build which works
well everywhere. The
One Against Many /
Arterial Bleed choice node is the only
one you will change depending on the content.
One Against Many should be used in AoE / Mythic+,
while
Arterial Bleed should be used in Raid / ST scenarios.
Using Demolish is straightforward; just use it on cooldown.
It will align with your other damage amps, like
Avatar and
Demoralizing Shout (with
Booming Voice) more or less
naturally.
Raiding and Mythic+ as Colossus
Colossus is a more offensive choice compared to
Mountain Thane.
It can deal a lot more damage, but this damage output comes at the cost of defensive value.
Due to having less Rage generation, you will not be able to use it on
Ignore Pain as
much and will have overall less value out of
Indomitable,
Anger Management
and
Violent Outburst. The gameplay is also a lot slower, but this can either be a positive
or a negative, depending on each individual.
The tree revolves around Demolish and amping the damage of your bleeds and
Revenge. Unfortunately, Demolish does not provide any Rage generation. This means
that you will be able to cast fewer abilities and need to make tougher choices between using
Rage on
Ignore Pain and
Revenge, compared to
Mountain Thane
where you have enough Rage to use both freely. This choice is made even harder because
a big part of your AoE damage output will come from
Revenge, meaning that in order to
deal maximum amounts of of damage, you need to actively use it as much as possible.
Forgoing usage of
Ignore Pain means that your damage intake will be higher,
so striking a balance between the two is crucial.
Talent notes for Colossus
From the talents side, everything is more or less the same as with Mountain Thane, but
Colossus prefers to use Thunderous Roar, and both of the sub-talents:
Thunderous Words
and
Uproar. You do not pick
Unstoppable Force as Colossus, which might
feel weird at first. Not playing Unstoppable Force, and picking
Thunderous Words
will provide you with more damage output.
Demolish lines up with
Thunderous Roar,
which provides you a significant damage boost through
Dominance of the Colossus.
Key talent differences from Mountain Thane can be found below.
Thunderous Roar instead of
Champion's Spear;
Uproar instead of
Champion's Might;
Thunderous Roar instead of
Piercing Challenge;
- No
Unstoppable Force;
You can still play Champion's Spear as
Colossus,
but you might not perform as well.
Changelog
- 15 Dec. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 11.0.7.
- 21 Oct. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 11.0.5.
- 09 Sep. 2024: Reviewed for The War Within Season 1.
- 21 Aug. 2024: Updated for The War Within.
- 02 Aug. 2024: Page added.
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This guide has been written by Mwahi, a Protection Warrior theorycrafter and moderator of the Skyhold Warrior Discord.
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