Subtlety Rogue DPS Liberation of Undermine Raid Guide — The War Within (11.1.0)

Last updated on Feb 26, 2025 at 16:47 by Eleem 70 comments
General Information

On this page, you will find tips, tricks, and strategies tailored to your Subtlety Rogue for each boss of the following raid: Liberation of Undermine. All our content is updated for World of Warcraft — The War Within (11.1.0).

1.

Introduction

Below, you can find class and spec-specific advice for every fight in Liberation of Undermine. If you are looking for a general overview of the Raid that is not spec-specific, check out our dedicated Liberation of Undermine Boss guides.

On this page, you will find tips and tricks specifically tailored toward Subtlety Rogues and its toolkit based on the recommended talent build. It does not include general tips for mechanics, which are included in the full raid guide instead, whereas this page assumes that you are already familiar with most of the major mechanics of each encounter.

All recommendations are progression-based tips and will not necessarily be the best for an overall DPS ranking.

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Liberation of Undermine Boss Guides for Subtlety Rogue

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Liberation of Undermine Raid Builds, Tips, and Tricks for Subtlety Rogue

Vexie Fullthrottle Cauldron of Carnage Rik Reverb Stix Bunkjunker Sprocketmonger Lockenstock One-Armed Bandit Mug'Zee Chrome King Gallywix
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Tips for Vexie Fullthrottle for Subtlety Rogue

2.1.

Defensive Tips

2.2.

Cooldown Usage

  • You can use Flagellation Icon Flagellation at the start of the encounter as usual. The boss will take additional damage through Mechanical Breakdown Icon Mechanical Breakdown after roughly 1:40 minutes has passed so save your subsequent Flagellation Icon Flagellations for that damage increase phase.
  • If your group is struggling to kill Geargrinder Bikers you can hold your Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death for them.
2.3.

Mechanical Tips

  • Try to stack loosely with your team to bait the Geargrinder Biker to charge to the same position.
  • Use sprint to make sure the oil from Spew Oil Icon Spew Oil is not placed on top of the raid.
2.4.

Mythic Difficulty

  • On mythic the damage increase from Mechanical Breakdown Icon Mechanical Breakdown happens at around 2 minutes instead. Saving Flagellation Icon Flagellation for that increase is still recommended.
2.5.

Best Talents

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3.

Tips for Cauldron of Carnage for Subtlety Rogue

2.6.

Defensive Tips

  • When soaking a Scrapbomb Icon Scrapbomb press Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows or Feint Icon Feint.
  • When the bosses charge into the middle and cast Colossal Clash Icon Colossal Clash you might need to Feint Icon Feint.
2.7.

Cooldown Usage

  • Try to use your Flagellation Icon Flagellation as often as possible.
2.8.

Mechanical Tips

  • When on the side of Torq try to not move more than necessary so you don't get stunned by Static Charge Icon Static Charge.
  • Swap to hitting the other boss after Colossal Clash Icon Colossal Clash is finished.
  • You can stand in between the bosses during Colossal Clash Icon Colossal Clash to cleave onto both bosses through Nimble Flurry Icon Nimble Flurry, beware that there is a lot less space to dodge the swirlies and lava waves present during the phase if you do though.
2.9.

Mythic Difficulty

2.10.

Best Talents

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Tips for Rik Reverb for Subtlety Rogue

2.11.

Defensive Tips

  • Try to use Crimson Vial Icon Crimson Vial and Feint Icon Feint as much as possible during his intermission when he is immune to damage through Sound Cloud Icon Sound Cloud.
2.12.

Cooldown Usage

  • Save your non-Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dances for the pyrotechnics spawned by Sparkblast Ignition Icon Sparkblast Ignition.
  • You need to use Flagellation Icon Flagellation immediately on cooldown to be able to get the entire cooldown window of before his intermission.
2.13.

Mechanical Tips

  • If you are not fast enough to make it into the Amplifier during his intermission you can Shadowstep Icon Shadowstep onto one of your allies that's already there.
2.14.

Mythic Difficulty

  • If your group is struggling with killing the Sparkblast Ignition Icon Sparkblast Ignition barrels in time you can move your Flagellation Icon Flagellation around to always be used on adds. Below is the recommended times during the fight to use your Flagellation Icon Flagellation to achieve this:
    • 0:14
    • 1:37
    • 3:50
    • 5:20
    Beware that this will likely make you lose a cast overall and thus lower your boss damage by quite a bit, but it could be a worthwhile payoff.
2.15.

Best Talents

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3.

Tips for Stix Bunkjunker for Subtlety Rogue

2.16.

Defensive Tips

  • Cast Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows or Feint Icon Feint before the boss lands and does Trash Compactor Icon Trash Compactor.
  • Cast Feint Icon Feint when the boss casts Electromagnetic Sorting Icon Electromagnetic Sorting
2.17.

Cooldown Usage

  • You want to use Flagellation Icon Flagellation immediately when its ready so you get enough time to do your burst before the boss flies away with Overdrive Icon Overdrive.
2.18.

Mechanical Tips

  • Try to stay away from trash piles if you're not currently rolling, as getting ignited by Incinerator Icon Incinerator will cause trash piles to become Hot Garbage Icon Hot Garbage.
2.19.

Mythic Difficulty

2.20.

Best Talents

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Tips for Sprocketmonger Lockenstock for Subtlety Rogue

2.21.

Defensive Tips

  • Cast Feint Icon Feint when the boss casts Sonic Ba-Boom Icon Sonic Ba-Boom.
  • Cast Feint Icon Feint and Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows during Bleeding Edge Icon Bleeding Edge.
2.22.

Cooldown Usage

  • Try to use your Flagellation Icon Flagellation as often as possible.
2.23.

Mechanical Tips

  • Save Sprint Icon Sprint for when the boss casts Bleeding Edge Icon Bleeding Edge so you can get back to the boss as fast as possible.
2.24.

Mythic Difficulty

  • Be careful with your positioning so you don't run into somebody of the other colour.
2.25.

Best Talents

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3.

Tips for One-ARmed Bandit for Subtlety Rogue

2.26.

Defensive Tips

  • Cast Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows and Feint Icon Feint during Reward: Flame and Coin Icon Reward: Flame and Coin.
2.27.

Cooldown Usage

  • Try to have one stack of Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death and Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance available for Spin To Win! Icon Spin To Win! when you don't have Flagellation Icon Flagellation up. This is so you can burst down one of the adds that spawns.
2.28.

Mechanical Tips

  • Try to stand next to (but not get hit by!) one of the rolling chips from Pay-Line Icon Pay-Line as you will get High Roller! Icon High Roller! which is a 10% damage buff.
2.29.

Mythic Difficulty

2.30.

Best Talents

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3.

Tips for Mug'Zee for Subtlety Rogue

2.31.

Defensive Tips

  • Hold Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows for Goblin-guided Rocket Icon Goblin-guided Rocket if you are assigned as an immune soaker.
2.32.

Cooldown Usage

  • Try to use your Flagellation Icon Flagellation as often as possible.
2.33.

Mechanical Tips

  • Be sure to run behind one of the walls left behind by Earthshaker Gaol Icon Earthshaker Gaol if you are targeted by Frostshatter Boots Icon Frostshatter Boots.
  • If you are targeted by Spray and Pray Icon Spray and Pray or Stormfury Finger Gun Icon Stormfury Finger Gun stand still so its easier for others to dodge.
  • Do not run into one of the Unstable Crawler Mines Icon Unstable Crawler Mines on accident.
2.34.

Mythic Difficulty

2.35.

Best Talents

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3.

Tips for Chrome King Gallywix for Subtlety Rogue

2.36.

Defensive Tips

  • Use and rotate Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows, Algari Healing Potion Icon Algari Healing Potion, Feint Icon Feint, Healthstone Icon Healthstone and Crimson Vial Icon Crimson Vial for the healing absorbs from Mechengineer's Canisters Icon Mechengineer's Canisters. This boss is really healing intensive so its important to assist in any way you can on these.
  • During Suppression Icon Suppression in the last phase make sure to sprint and run as far out as possible to take less damage from Gallybux Finale Blast Icon Gallybux Finale Blast.
2.37.

Cooldown Usage

  • You can hold your second use of Flagellation Icon Flagellation for ~15 seconds or so and it will line up better across the fight.
2.38.

Mechanical Tips

  • Somebody in your raid needs to run over to the batteries with a Charged Giga Bomb Icon Charged Giga Bomb, if you are not assigned to do this you should be picking any nearby bombs and toss them into the hole in the center of the room (by using your extra action button).
  • Having Shiv Icon Shiv specced for this fight is a good idea as you can remove the Lumbering Rage Icon Lumbering Rage from the Darkfuse Wrenchmongers and help your tank out.
2.39.

Mythic Difficulty

2.40.

Best Talents

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2.41.

General Offensive Cooldown Usage

Subtlety Rogue has a few cooldowns to think about using optimally on the fights in Liberation of Undermine:

  • Flagellation Icon Flagellation and Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades - Our main damage buffs with a 90 second cooldown.

Make sure to use your cooldowns on cooldown as much as possible unless certain adds or DPS phases allow you to get more value out of them. This is typically something you will want to discuss with your Raidleader or the rest of the raid in static groups, while PUGs are more freeform than that. Simply keep an eye out on how you can best serve the raid, even if that might mean losing uptime on the boss during your cooldowns. If it wiped you in the previous pull, and you now kill the boss, it does not matter if your DPS is a bit lower.

2.42.

General Defensive Cooldown Usage

If you want to mitigate damage during some of the harder hitting moments of any given encounter, press Feint Icon Feint or Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows.

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Changelog

  • 20 Feb. 2025: Guide added.
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