Subtlety Rogue DPS Liberation of Undermine Raid Guide — The War Within (11.1.0)
On this page, you will find tips, tricks, and strategies tailored to your Subtlety Rogue for each boss of the following raid: Liberation of Undermine. All our content is updated for World of Warcraft — The War Within (11.1.0).
Introduction
Below, you can find class and spec-specific advice for every fight in Liberation of Undermine. If you are looking for a general overview of the Raid that is not spec-specific, check out our dedicated Liberation of Undermine Boss guides.
On this page, you will find tips and tricks specifically tailored toward Subtlety Rogues and its toolkit based on the recommended talent build. It does not include general tips for mechanics, which are included in the full raid guide instead, whereas this page assumes that you are already familiar with most of the major mechanics of each encounter.
All recommendations are progression-based tips and will not necessarily be the best for an overall DPS ranking.
Liberation of Undermine Boss Guides for Subtlety Rogue
Liberation of Undermine Raid Builds, Tips, and Tricks for Subtlety Rogue
Tips for Vexie Fullthrottle for Subtlety Rogue
Defensive Tips
Cooldown Usage
- You can use
Flagellation at the start of the encounter as usual. The boss will take additional damage through
Mechanical Breakdown after roughly 1:40 minutes has passed so save your subsequent
Flagellations for that damage increase phase.
- If your group is struggling to kill Geargrinder Bikers you can hold your
Shadow Dance and
Symbols of Death for them.
Mechanical Tips
- Try to stack loosely with your team to bait the Geargrinder Biker to charge to the same position.
- Use sprint to make sure the oil from
Spew Oil is not placed on top of the raid.
Mythic Difficulty
- On mythic the damage increase from
Mechanical Breakdown happens at around 2 minutes instead. Saving
Flagellation for that increase is still recommended.
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Cauldron of Carnage for Subtlety Rogue
Defensive Tips
- When soaking a
Scrapbomb press
Cloak of Shadows or
Feint.
- When the bosses charge into the middle and cast
Colossal Clash you might need to
Feint.
Cooldown Usage
- Try to use your
Flagellation as often as possible.
Mechanical Tips
- When on the side of Torq try to not move more than necessary so you don't get stunned by
Static Charge.
- Swap to hitting the other boss after
Colossal Clash is finished.
- You can stand in between the bosses during
Colossal Clash to cleave onto both bosses through
Nimble Flurry, beware that there is a lot less space to dodge the swirlies and lava waves present during the phase if you do though.
Mythic Difficulty
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Rik Reverb for Subtlety Rogue
Defensive Tips
- Try to use
Crimson Vial and
Feint as much as possible during his intermission when he is immune to damage through
Sound Cloud.
Cooldown Usage
- Save your non-
Shadow Blades
Shadow Dances for the pyrotechnics spawned by
Sparkblast Ignition.
- You need to use
Flagellation immediately on cooldown to be able to get the entire cooldown window of before his intermission.
Mechanical Tips
- If you are not fast enough to make it into the Amplifier during his intermission you can
Shadowstep onto one of your allies that's already there.
Mythic Difficulty
- If your group is struggling with killing the
Sparkblast Ignition barrels in time you can move your
Flagellation around to always be used on adds. Below is the recommended times during the fight to use your
Flagellation to achieve this:
- 0:14
- 1:37
- 3:50
- 5:20
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Stix Bunkjunker for Subtlety Rogue
Defensive Tips
- Cast
Cloak of Shadows or
Feint before the boss lands and does
Trash Compactor.
- Cast
Feint when the boss casts
Electromagnetic Sorting
Cooldown Usage
- You want to use
Flagellation immediately when its ready so you get enough time to do your burst before the boss flies away with
Overdrive.
Mechanical Tips
- Try to stay away from trash piles if you're not currently rolling, as getting ignited by
Incinerator will cause trash piles to become
Hot Garbage.
Mythic Difficulty
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Sprocketmonger Lockenstock for Subtlety Rogue
Defensive Tips
- Cast
Feint when the boss casts
Sonic Ba-Boom.
- Cast
Feint and
Cloak of Shadows during
Bleeding Edge.
Cooldown Usage
- Try to use your
Flagellation as often as possible.
Mechanical Tips
- Save
Sprint for when the boss casts
Bleeding Edge so you can get back to the boss as fast as possible.
Mythic Difficulty
- Be careful with your positioning so you don't run into somebody of the other colour.
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for One-ARmed Bandit for Subtlety Rogue
Defensive Tips
- Cast
Cloak of Shadows and
Feint during
Reward: Flame and Coin.
Cooldown Usage
- Try to have one stack of
Symbols of Death and
Shadow Dance available for
Spin To Win! when you don't have
Flagellation up. This is so you can burst down one of the adds that spawns.
Mechanical Tips
- Try to stand next to (but not get hit by!) one of the rolling chips from
Pay-Line as you will get
High Roller! which is a 10% damage buff.
Mythic Difficulty
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Mug'Zee for Subtlety Rogue
Defensive Tips
- Hold
Cloak of Shadows for
Goblin-guided Rocket if you are assigned as an immune soaker.
Cooldown Usage
- Try to use your
Flagellation as often as possible.
Mechanical Tips
- Be sure to run behind one of the walls left behind by
Earthshaker Gaol if you are targeted by
Frostshatter Boots.
- If you are targeted by
Spray and Pray or
Stormfury Finger Gun stand still so its easier for others to dodge.
- Do not run into one of the
Unstable Crawler Mines on accident.
Mythic Difficulty
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
Tips for Chrome King Gallywix for Subtlety Rogue
Defensive Tips
- Use and rotate
Cloak of Shadows,
Algari Healing Potion,
Feint,
Healthstone and
Crimson Vial for the healing absorbs from
Mechengineer's Canisters. This boss is really healing intensive so its important to assist in any way you can on these.
- During
Suppression in the last phase make sure to sprint and run as far out as possible to take less damage from
Gallybux Finale Blast.
Cooldown Usage
- You can hold your second use of
Flagellation for ~15 seconds or so and it will line up better across the fight.
Mechanical Tips
- Somebody in your raid needs to run over to the batteries with a
Charged Giga Bomb, if you are not assigned to do this you should be picking any nearby bombs and toss them into the hole in the center of the room (by using your extra action button).
- Having
Shiv specced for this fight is a good idea as you can remove the
Lumbering Rage from the Darkfuse Wrenchmongers and help your tank out.
Mythic Difficulty
Best Talents
Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the build directly into your game!
General Offensive Cooldown Usage
Subtlety Rogue has a few cooldowns to think about using optimally on the fights in Liberation of Undermine:
Flagellation and
Shadow Blades - Our main damage buffs with a 90 second cooldown.
Make sure to use your cooldowns on cooldown as much as possible unless certain adds or DPS phases allow you to get more value out of them. This is typically something you will want to discuss with your Raidleader or the rest of the raid in static groups, while PUGs are more freeform than that. Simply keep an eye out on how you can best serve the raid, even if that might mean losing uptime on the boss during your cooldowns. If it wiped you in the previous pull, and you now kill the boss, it does not matter if your DPS is a bit lower.
General Defensive Cooldown Usage
If you want to mitigate damage during some of the harder hitting moments of
any given encounter, press Feint or
Cloak of Shadows.
Changelog
- 20 Feb. 2025: Guide added.
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This guide has been written by Eleem, who has been a rogue player, enjoyer and theorycrafter since Legion. He is currently raiding in a top 100 guild and has been known to dabble in m+ from time to time. You can find him in the Ravenholdt Discord as Eleem.
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