Subtlety Rogue DPS Mythic+ Tips — The War Within (11.2)

Last updated on Aug 04, 2025 at 19:30 by Eleem 72 comments
General Information

In this guide, you will find tips and advice to tackle Mythic+ dungeons with your Subtlety Rogue in World of Warcraft — The War Within (11.2).

1.

Subtlety Rogue in Mythic+ in The War Within Season 3

The playstyle of Subtlety in Mythic+ revolves around huge burst windows with damage multipliers, such as Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death, Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance, Flagellation Icon Flagellation and Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades. You're also using Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm to generate more Combo Points than you normally would in a single-target scenario, which leads to more cooldown reduction on your Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance through Deepening Shadows Icon Deepening Shadows.

If you are unfamiliar with Mythic+ and its associated general mechanics, you can read more about it on our The War Within Mythic+ page below.

To learn more about the Mythic+ Meta, check out our Mythic+ Tier List below.

2.

Best Mythic+ Talents for Subtlety Rogue in The War Within

Subtlety in Mythic+ offers fairly low sustained AoE damage. To compensate for that it does have very strong cooldowns cooldowns that can be used on bosses or high-priority targets that need to be taken out quickly or have much higher health pools than the surrounding enemies. Subtlety also has the ability to utilize its easy Combo Point generation to slam big health targets every other global thanks to Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm generating Combo Points based on targets hit. Unlike Assassination, Subtlety does not rely on critical strikes to generate combo points which provides a steady stream of Combo Point generation. You can play this as either Hero Talent spec, depending on your preference, but Trickster reigns supreme damage-wise in Mythic+.

For a more general overview of Talents for Subtlety Rogue, please visit our dedicated Talents page.

3.

Best Mythic+ Talent Builds for Subtlety Rogue

Trickster
Mythic+ / AoE
Trickster
Mythic+ / AoE
Deathstalker
Mythic+ / AoE
3.

Best Trickster Mythic+ Talents for Subtlety Rogue in The War Within

This is the Trickster build for Subtlety, that offers immense burst, both on AoE and on Single-Target.

Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the best build directly into your game!

3.

Best Trickster High-key Talents for Subtlety Rogue in The War Within

This is an alternative Trickster build for Subtlety, that offers similar burst on aoe but packs a little bit more punch in the non-Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dances. It does this at the cost of some Single-Target damage and without the smooth gameplay feeling from Shadowcraft Icon Shadowcraft.

3.

Trickster Mythic+ / AoE

Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the best build directly into your game!

Raid / Mythic+ / AoE - Trickster
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4.

Best Deathstalker Mythic+ Talents for Subtlety Rogue in The War Within

This is the Deathstalker Aoe build for Subtlety, it is however not recommended as Trickster performs better.

Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the best build directly into your game!

3.1.

Flexible Utility Talents

Rogues as a whole ain't got too many utility talent points thats flexible depending on the situation up ahead, but here are the points that can be moved:

  • Iron Stomach Icon Iron Stomach can be swapped with Deadened Nerves Icon Deadened Nerves.
  • Stillshroud Icon Stillshroud can be swapped with Superior Mixture Icon Superior Mixture.
  • To swap these you would also need to swap the pre-requisite talents: Rushed Setup Icon Rushed Setup and Improved Wound Poison Icon Improved Wound Poison, these are however not very impactful and the main choice is between a shorter cooldown on Shroud of Concealment Icon Shroud of Concealment and a more effective slow from Crippling Poison Icon Crippling Poison
4.

Mythic+ Utility for Subtlety Rogue in The War Within Season 3

This section talks mostly about the uses of different spells. For in-depth explanations of all Rogue Abilities and Talents, including these, check out our Spells page.

5.

Utility of Subtlety Rogue in The War Within

Interrupts, Stuns and Stops Other Utility
4.1.

Interrupts, Stuns and Stops

Kick Icon Kick is your, well, "kick". You will interrupt your targeted enemy, or, when using a Focus-Macro, the target you set up as your focus.

  • /stopcasting
  • /stopcasting
  • /cast [@focus,exists,nodead] [] Kick

This macro will kick your focus target if you have one, and your target if you have no focus target. We recommend keeping both the macro and a regular kick cast on your bars, as you may have multiple targets to interrupt, and the macro always prioritizes the focus target.

To quickly set a focus target in hectic scenarios, we also recommend a Focus Mouseover macro, or setting the "Focus Target" hotkey in the game's keybinding settings.

  • /focus [@mouseover]

Make sure that your UI shows your Focus Target's casts clearly, so that you are always able to kick it on cooldown, or in coordination with the rest of your group.

5.

Stunning and "Stops"

Sap Icon Sap and Blind Icon Blind can be useful to hard-crowd control multiple mobs in a single trash pack. You can also use it right before the tank is pulling, as Blackjack Icon Blackjack applies a damage reduction debuff to the target when Sap breaks.

With Airborne Irritant Icon Airborne Irritant talented, Blind Icon Blind turns into a powerful AoE disrupt that also drastically reduces tank damage taken if Blackjack Icon Blackjack is selected.

Gouge Icon Gouge (if talented) can be used to disrupt enemies from casting otherwise uninterruptible spells. This requires you to stand in front of the enemy, but can be used in many situations to keep enemies from using some of their most lethal abilities. Many of these abilities go on cooldown once used, so disrupting them with Gouge, Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot, or Blind Icon Blind will keep these mobs from re-casting these abilities for a while.

Vanish Icon Vanish can be also used to Cheap Shot Icon Cheap Shot an enemy that can only be stopped, not interrupted.

4.2.

Other Utility

Shroud of Concealment Icon Shroud of Concealment projects AoE Stealth Icon Stealth around you. It is important to note, however, that in the current expansion, there is a much greater number of enemies who can detect through Stealth or Invisibility, whom you will need to be on the lookout for. Subtlety also has the talent

Subtlety Rogues also have the talent Shrouded in Darkness Icon Shrouded in Darkness, this allows you to use shroud as a massive speed boost to your team even when you are not trying to sneak past mobs. This is especially powerful in indoor dungeons with long sections of running where you cannot mount.

Distract Icon Distract helps set up Shroud-skips and keeps patrolling trash packs in place for 10 seconds. Make sure to force enemies to look away from you, to allow you to stealth past them.

Feint Icon Feint, Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows, Evasion Icon Evasion, Crimson Vial Icon Crimson Vial and Cheat Death Icon Cheat Death form a very powerful set of defensive cooldowns and are one of the biggest reasons for Rogue's strength in Mythic+.

Tricks of the Trade Icon Tricks of the Trade is not exceptionally great normally. However, any kind of support that helps your tank keep aggro on all enemies is encouraged. Sadly it is a choice-node with Blackjack Icon Blackjack.

Shiv Icon Shiv can be used to dispel Enrage effects.

Numbing Poison Icon Numbing Poison and Atrophic Poison Icon Atrophic Poison are both useful in Mythic+, but with the heavier emphasis on trash mobs, Numbing Poison Icon Numbing Poison is likely to win out on Fortified, with Atrophic gaining more value on Tyrannical weeks. Communicate with your tank and healer which ones are preferable.

7.

Affix Tips, Tricks and Management for Subtlety Rogue in The War Within Season 3

This section has Rogue-specific tips for dealing with the various affixes of Mythic+. If you want general guides for each of our Dungeons or Mythic+ in general, check out our dedicated page below.

Season 3 of The War Within only has four significant Affixes that offer any kind of counterplay, called Xal'ataths Bargains, and they rotate every week, with only one of them being active at a time. Many of the other affixes like Fortified or Tyrannical simply add a passive effect to the keystone, with four exceptions that are seasonally themed after Xal'atah:

  • Xal'atath's Bargain: Ascendant Icon Xal'atath's Bargain: Ascendant: Three waves of orbs will spawn that need to be interrupted or disrupted. Blind Icon Blind works great here as an AoE interrupt thanks to Airborne Irritant Icon Airborne Irritant. However if you target the orbs themselves Airborne Irritant Icon Airborne Irritant will unfortunately not make Blind Icon Blind cleave so you have to target a regular mob with it.
  • Xal'atath's Bargain: Voidbound Icon Xal'atath's Bargain: Voidbound: A Void Emissary add will spawn that needs to be focus-targeted and interrupted.
  • Xal'atath's Bargain: Pulsar Icon Xal'atath's Bargain: Pulsar: Orbs will spawn around the members of your group and you need to soak the orbs.
  • Xal'atath's Bargain: Devour Icon Xal'atath's Bargain: Devour: All party members will be affected by a healing absorb. You can remove this with Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows or racials like Stoneform Icon Stoneform. You can use Crimson Vial Icon Crimson Vial if these are unavailable to you, to help get rid of the debuff faster. Healthpots or Healthstones also work well if your healer is out of resources.

Each of the affixes provides a different set of beneficial effects once it is dealt with, and while they are very powerful, they are not something you play around in a specific way. The most important part is to not let any of them buff the enemy trash or bosses.

8.

Changelog

  • 04 Aug. 2025: Updated for Patch 11.2.
  • 15 Jun. 2025: Reviewed for Patch 11.1.7.
  • 21 Apr. 2025: Updated for Patch 11.1.5.
  • 24 Feb. 2025: Updated for Patch 11.1
  • 15 Dec. 2024: Updated for Patch 11.0.7.
  • 09 Sep. 2024: Updated for The War Within Season 1.
  • 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
  • 22 Apr. 2024: Reviewed for Season 4
  • 20 Mar. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.6.
  • 15 Jan. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.5.
  • 06 Nov. 2023: Reviewed for patch 10.2.
  • 04 Sep. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.1.7
  • 10 Jul. 2023: Page updated for Patch 10.1.5.
  • 11 May 2023: Changed recommended talent to Flagellation over Dark Brew.
  • 01 May 2023: Page reviewed and updated for Patch 10.1.
  • 20 Mar. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
  • 24 Jan. 2023: Updated talents and reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
  • 11 Dec. 2022: Updated talent recommendations.
  • 28 Nov. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight launch.
  • 25 Oct. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight pre-patch.
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