Survival Hunter DPS Mythic+ Guide — The War Within (11.1.0)

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General Information

In this guide, you will find tips and advice to tackle Mythic+ dungeons with your Survival Hunter in World of Warcraft — The War Within (11.1.0).

1.

Survival Hunter Mythic+ Guide for The War Within Season 2

In this guide, we will talk about getting the most out of your Hunter in Mythic+ dungeons, including the best way to set up your character, how your rotation may change, and tips and tricks for using your abilities in the most optimal way.

If you are unfamiliar with Mythic+ and its associated general mechanics, you can read more about it on our dedicated Mythic+ page below.

To learn more about the Mythic+ Meta, check out our Mythic+ Tier List below.

2.

Survival Hunter in The War Within Mythic+

Survival Hunter is a solid all-rounder in Mythic+, able to deliver both solid AoE and single-target in one package, and without varying its rotation too much. It has some of the best utility of the Hunter specs, and the best survivability (true to its name!) overall.

3.

Best Mythic+ Talents for Survival Hunter in The War Within

For a more general overview of Talents for Survival Hunter, please visit our dedicated Talents page.

4.

Best Mythic+ Talents for Survival Hunter

Mythic+ Talents — Sentinel Mythic+ Talents — Pack Leader
5.

Best Sentinel Mythic+ Talent Build for Survival Hunter in The War Within Season 2

This build has the highest AoE of our two Mythic+ builds, but has vastly inferior single-target and priority-target damage, so I do not recommend it for general use, though it is very viable and can do strong overall DPS.

4.1.

Survival Hunter Utility Talent Considerations in Mythic+

We cannot have everything we could possibly want for every single dungeon in a single build, unfortunately. Here are the recommended utility talents to swap to for different, specific Mythic+ dungeons in The War Within Season 2.

Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the best build directly into your game!

5.

Best Pack Leader Mythic+ Talent Build for Survival Hunter in The War Within Season 2

This build offers vastly more single-target and priority-target damage than Sentinel, at a cost of AoE. This is, in my opinion, a more efficient build for general Mythic+, as even Sentinel Survival has poor AoE. I would rather lean into Survival's strengths than be mediocre at everything.

4.2.

Wait, Flanking Strike Icon Flanking Strike over Butchery Icon Butchery?

Yes. As described further below on this page, my Mythic+ builds are optimized for dungeon completion time, which is achieved via a mixture of single-target damage, priority-target damage, and general AoE DPS. The perfect Mythic+ build is something like the perfect middle-ground of these 3 disciplines. In this case, Butchery Icon Butchery is such a massive single-target DPS loss (upwards of 15%), but is a much smaller AoE DPS gain (10%, often less), that Flanking Strike Icon Flanking Strike's incredible single-target and priority-target damage will actually complete keys more efficiently overall, finding a ton of time save in destroying bosses and priority targets in packs. If AoE is the goal, Sentinel simply does a better job of this.

4.2.

Survival Hunter Utility Talent Considerations in Mythic+

We cannot have everything we could possibly want for every single dungeon in a single build, unfortunately. Here are the recommended utility talents to swap to for different, specific Mythic+ dungeons in The War Within Season 2.

Be sure to make use of the 'Export Talents' button to import the best build directly into your game!

5.

Mythic+ Utility for Survival Hunter in The War Within Season 2

This section talks mostly about the uses of different spells. For in-depth explanations of all Hunter Abilities and Talents, including these, check out our Spells page.

6.

Utility of Survival Hunter in The War Within

Interrupts, Stuns and Stops Other Utility
6.1.

Interrupts, Stuns and Stops

Muzzle Icon Muzzle is your "kick" and your most important bit of utility in Mythic+, used to stop enemy casts for the benefit of the group and especially the tank. It is highly recommended to use a Focus Kick macro for this.

  • /stopcasting
  • /stopcasting
  • /cast [@focus,exists,nodead][@mouseover,exists,nodead] [] Counter Shot

This macro will kick your focus target if you have one, mouseover if you have no Focus target, and your target if you have neither of those.

To quickly set a focus target in hectic scenarios, we also recommend a Focus Mouseover macro.

  • /focus [@mouseover]

Make sure that your UI shows your Focus Target's casts clearly, so that you are always able to kick it on cooldown, or in coordination with the rest of your group.

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Stunning and "Stops"

Implosive Trap Icon Implosive Trap is your "AoE stop". shortly after arming, it will knock up all targets in a generous radius, stopping their casts. This is very potent when combined with Binding Shot Icon Binding Shot cast beforehand, as the knock-up effect will trigger the stun from Binding Shot Icon Binding Shot, turning your AoE stop into a 3-4 second AoE stun for the cost of a global.

Intimidation Icon Intimidation is your second-most important utility and is your single-target "stop" for negating casts that cannot be normally interrupted. We recommend using this in the same way as your Counter Shot, with the same macro (with Intimidation swapped in for Counter Shot, of course).

Binding Shot Icon Binding Shot can be used to save your tank in hectic moments by helping him kite mobs and generate some range. It will most commonly be used in conjunction with Implosive Trap Icon Implosive Trap to enable a stun alongside the knockback offered by the latter.

Freezing Trap Icon Freezing Trap can be used as an additional stop alongside Intimidation Icon Intimidation, but it has a bit of travel and arming time and is not quite as reliable.

Bursting Shot Icon Bursting Shot can be used as an additional stop, like Implosive Trap Icon Implosive Trap, but it will knock enemies back which can be disruptive and so it should be a last resort. Sometimes, you will use it to knock straggling enemies into the "deathball" of AoE that your tank has made.

7.1.

Other Utility

Feign Death Icon Feign Death can not only be used to drop aggro, but also negate certain casts and channels on you. In some cases, these mechanics will simply re-target someone else in the group, but occasionally the mechanic will be entirely negated with huge benefits. If you notice a cast or effect on you, try to Feign Death Icon Feign Death it! It will also remove all Poisons and Diseases on you, and this WeakAura can help alert you when that is possible.

Tranquilizing Shot Icon Tranquilizing Shot can negate beneficial Enrage and Magic effects from enemy targets, and with the Disruptive Rounds Icon Disruptive Rounds Talent, we do not lose meaningful damage from doing so. If the Dungeon is especially heavy on these dispels, you may choose to change our default Talents into grabbing either Kodo Tranquilizer Icon Kodo Tranquilizer or Devilsaur Tranquilizer Icon Devilsaur Tranquilizer.

Tar Trap Icon Tar Trap can be used to aid your tank in kiting by slowing mobs. It is good to reflexively throw down a Tar Trap if your Tank dies, as it gives everyone else a better chance at kiting and surviving.

9.

Affix Tips, Tricks and Management for Survival Hunter in The War Within Season 2

This section has Hunter-specific tips for dealing with the various affixes of Mythic+. If you want general guides for each of our Dungeons or Mythic+ in general, check out our dedicated page below.

10.

Affix Guide for Survival Hunter in The War Within

Affix: Ascendant Affix: Voidbound Affix: Pulsar Affix: Devour
9.1.

Ascendant Affix Management for Survival Hunter

Use AoE Crowd Control tools like Implosive Trap Icon Implosive Trap and Bursting Shot Icon Bursting Shot on dense clusters of Orbs to take out as many as possible. You can use Intimidation Icon Intimidation and Freezing Trap Icon Freezing Trap for remaining, singular ones.

9.2.

Voidbound Affix Management for Survival Hunter

Nothing specific to say here — use your solid target-swapping capabilities to focus the Void Emissary down as quickly as possible.

9.3.

Pulsar Affix Management for Survival Hunter

Pop Aspect of the Cheetah Icon Aspect of the Cheetah and dash around to grab as many orbs as quickly as possible.

9.4.

Devour Affix Management for Survival Hunter

Feign Death Icon Feign Death's Poison/Disease dispel (via Emergency Salve Icon Emergency Salve) is a source of dispel type for removing Void Rift Icon Void Rift. You can also Exhilaration Icon Exhilaration to heal it off, but that costs a GCD.

10.

How To Sim Mythic+ for Survival Hunter

10.1.

MDT Sim

MDT Sim is the best way to sim Mythic+ for Survival Hunter. It allows you to sim an entire dungeon, pull-by-pull, with appropriate HP amounts and so on. In this way, you get a full picture within a single sim, of various target counts and durations. I have created a route that I feel is a good "average" of all dungeons that you can use. Drop the contents of the Pastebin into your Raidbots > SimC Expert Mode at the bottom > 'Footer'. Detailed instructions and more info on MDT Sim can be found on the MDT Sim Wago page.

On our Gear Page below, we have compiled BiS items for Survival Hunter that also apply to Mythic+.

11.

Changelog

  • 25 Mar. 2025: Updated for March 25 Updates.
  • 18 Mar. 2025: Updated the recommended MDT Sim/Mythic+ Simulation Route Pastebin.
  • 24 Feb. 2025: Updated for Patch 11.1.0.
  • 15 Dec. 2024: Updated for Patch 11.0.7.
  • 13 Nov. 2024: Updated the Mythic+ Sentinel Build to account for Ruthless Marauder previously having been undersimming.
  • 06 Nov. 2024: Added M+ builds and added a note of a good Talent Swap for beginners.
  • 30 Oct. 2024: Updated for October 29 Hotfixes.
  • 22 Oct. 2024: Updated for Patch 11.0.5.
  • 27 Sep. 2024: Updated Ara-Kara Tips.
  • 13 Sep. 2024: Updated and clarified some tips.
  • 09 Sep. 2024: Preliminary update for The War Within Season 1.
  • 12 May 2024: Added Misdirection to the M+ Build by default.
  • 11 May 2024: Added section on how to survive the highest of keys with Tank Trinkets and Embellishments.
  • 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
  • 03 May 2024: Added tip for Chargath in Neltharus.
  • 22 Apr. 2024: Updated for Season 4.
  • 19 Mar. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.6.
  • 29 Jan. 2024: Updated the default M+ build to a No-CD Build.
  • 15 Jan. 2024: Updated for Patch 10.2.5.
  • 18 Dec. 2023: Added Mythic+ Dungeon Tips.
  • 28 Nov. 2023: Updated the Mythic+ Talent Build.
  • 12 Nov. 2023: Added a T30 Mythic+ Build.
  • 09 Nov. 2023: Small change to the Mythic+ build, for more single-target.
  • 06 Nov. 2023: Updated for Patch 10.2
  • 04 Sep. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.1.7
  • 10 Jul. 2023: Updated for Patch 10.1.5.
  • 23 Jun. 2023: Updated the Mythic+ Builds in light of recent APL changes.
  • 02 Jun. 2023: Significant updates to the talent builds, both in terms of what is recommended for Fortified/Tyrannical, and the talent builds in themselves.
  • 27 May 2023: Added separate Fortified, Tyrannical, and Cooldown Builds for Survival Mythic+.
  • 13 May 2023: Updated the recommended AoE/Mythic+ Talents.
  • 01 May 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.1.
  • 20 Mar. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
  • 24 Jan. 2023: Updated the recommended M+ Build.
  • 11 Dec. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight Season 1.
  • 28 Nov. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight launch.
  • 29 Oct. 2022: Updated the Venthyr Mythic+ Build Talents.
  • 26 Oct. 2022: Added a Kyrian build that is superior for heavy AoE keys.
  • 24 Oct. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight pre-patch.
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