Survival Hunter PvP Talents and Builds — The War Within (11.0.5)

Last updated on Oct 31, 2024 at 21:20 by Slo 11 comments

Choosing the right PvP and PvE talents is a prerequisite to proper performance in PvP. This guide goes through the various talent choices available to you as a Survival Hunter and gives you the best combinations you can take.

This page is part of our Survival Hunter PvP Guide.

1.

Best The War Within Talent Builds for Survival Hunters

Note that builds here are generic recommendations for arena. There are tweaks that are effective in certain matchups. A description of suggested alterations or options is included with each build.

If you are looking for advice on which pets to use, there is a seperate page on this guide answering that question in detail. Generally, you want a Cunning pet unless you expect the enemy team to burst you in a stun, in which case you are likely better off with a Tenacity pet.

2.

The War Within PvP Talent Builds for Survival Hunters in Arena

Best Survival Arena Build ( Sentinel) Best Survival Arena Build ( Pack Leader)
3.

Best Arena Build for Survival Hunters ( Sentinel)

Following the 11.0.5 rework, Butchery Icon Butchery becomes a staple of Survival rotation because of the powerful bleed effect Merciless Blows Icon Merciless Blows. Variations on the Survival side of the talent tree are mostly focused on how many targets you will be able to hit with Butchery Icon Butchery and Wildfire Bomb Icon Wildfire Bomb.

If you think it is likely that you will be able to land Butchery Icon Butchery on multiple enemies frequently, you may want to swap Bloodseeker Icon Bloodseeker for Frenzy Strikes Icon Frenzy Strikes. If you are not worried about mobility and just want to do the maximum damage possible against multiple enemies, you may also want to swap Terms of Engagement Icon Terms of Engagement for Exposed Flank Icon Exposed Flank or Contagious Reagents Icon Contagious Reagents.

This build uses the Sentinel Hero Talent Tree, which provides a powerful area of effect when you use Wildfire Bomb Icon Wildfire Bomb through Lunar Storm Icon Lunar Storm, additional damage through Sentinel procs, a small cooldown reduction to Coordinated Assault Icon Coordinated Assault through Sentinel Watch Icon Sentinel Watch and a small amount of crowd control from Catch Out Icon Catch Out, which gives a root that crucially does not break on damage. Both Hero Talent trees are viable, though, and you can choose whichever you prefer.

Symbiotic Adrenaline Icon Symbiotic Adrenaline is better than Relentless Primal Ferocity Icon Relentless Primal Ferocity in almost all Arena scenarios, as it gives you more frequent access to the baseline 20% damage bonus and mobility from Coordinated Assault Icon Coordinated Assault, as well as the Wildfire Bomb Icon Wildfire Bomb and Explosive Shot Icon Explosive Shot resets from Bombardier Icon Bombardier.

There are several talents in the Hunter tree that you will want to change regularly based on matchups, which are:

  • Scrappy Icon Scrappy, which is a decent talent but can be moved around if there is another talent that would be more valuable in a matchup
  • Keen Eyesight Icon Keen Eyesight is a good talent for your throughput, but if there is another talent that would be very valuable in a matchup, you can drop points in this talent if needed.
  • Hunter's Avoidance Icon Hunter's Avoidance is worth taking when the enemy team has heavy area of effect damage.
  • Concussive Shot Icon Concussive Shot occasionally, you will have games where you can drop this because whoever you need to slow is always in melee. You will still have Wing Clip Icon Wing Clip, which is actually a longer duration slow anyway
  • Kodo Tranquilizer Icon Kodo Tranquilizer is good in almost all 3v3 scenarios but is interchangeable in 2v2 or certain matchups where you do not expect the enemy team to stack at all
  • Scout's Instincts Icon Scout's Instincts if you need mobility, this can help. A target slowed by Concussive Shot Icon Concussive Shot cannot catch you with this talent. It can also be combined with Hunting Pack Icon Hunting Pack, Moment of Opportunity Icon Moment of Opportunity and Born To Be Wild Icon Born To Be Wild
  • Bursting Shot Icon Bursting Shot is occasionally good if you really don't need Scatter Shot Icon Scatter Shot, but these scenarios are rare
  • Binding Shackles Icon Binding Shackles is an optional "nice to have" talent, which you can replace if there's something better for a situation
  • Serrated Tips Icon Serrated Tips can be good if you have a decent amount of Crit rating on your gear
  • Emergency Salve Icon Emergency Salve is very good (into Assassination Rogues), decent into Shadow Priests to remove Devouring Plague and makes Subtlety and Outlaw Rogues easier to kite.
  • Misdirection Icon Misdirection is required to play Interlope Icon Interlope, which is a powerful PvP talent into casters, although you should be aware of the 20 yard range requirement, and if you are casting Interlope Icon Interlope on your pet, make sure you do it while within that range

Be sure to make use of the 'Copy Export String' button to import the best build directly your game!

3.

Best Arena Build for Survival Hunters ( Pack Leader)

Following the 11.0.5 rework, Butchery Icon Butchery becomes a staple of Survival rotation because of the powerful bleed effect Merciless Blows Icon Merciless Blows. Variations on the Survival side of the talent tree are mostly focused on how many targets you will be able to hit with Butchery Icon Butchery and Wildfire Bomb Icon Wildfire Bomb.

If you think it is unlikely that you will be able to land Butchery Icon Butchery on cooldown, you may want to swap Frenzy Strikes Icon Frenzy Strikes for Bloodseeker Icon Bloodseeker. If you are only going to be attacking one target you should swap Contagious Reagents Icon Contagious Reagents for Outland Venom Icon Outland Venom.

If you are not worried about mobility and just want to do the maximum damage possible against multiple enemies, you may also want to swap Terms of Engagement Icon Terms of Engagement for Exposed Flank Icon Exposed Flank or Frenzy Strikes Icon Frenzy Strikes.

This build uses the Pack Leader Hero Talent Tree, which provides a substantial increase to your Wildfire Bomb Icon Wildfire Bomb through Howl of the Pack Icon Howl of the Pack and boosts the potency of your Coordinated Assault Icon Coordinated Assault through Pack Assault Icon Pack Assault. Pack Leader also gives you powerful on-demand healing with Den Recovery Icon Den Recovery. Both Hero Talent trees are viable, though, and you can choose whichever you prefer.

Symbiotic Adrenaline Icon Symbiotic Adrenaline is better than Relentless Primal Ferocity Icon Relentless Primal Ferocity in almost all Arena scenarios, as it gives you more frequent access to the baseline 20% damage bonus and mobility from Coordinated Assault Icon Coordinated Assault, as well as the Wildfire Bomb Icon Wildfire Bomb and Explosive Shot Icon Explosive Shot resets from Bombardier Icon Bombardier.

There are several talents in the Hunter tree that you will want to change regularly based on matchups, which are:

  • Scrappy Icon Scrappy, which is a decent talent but can be moved around if there is another talent that would be more valuable in a matchup
  • Keen Eyesight Icon Keen Eyesight is a good talent for your throughput, but if there is another talent that would be very valuable in a matchup, you can drop points in this talent if needed.
  • Hunter's Avoidance Icon Hunter's Avoidance is worth taking when the enemy team has heavy area of effect damage.
  • Concussive Shot Icon Concussive Shot occasionally, you will have games where you can drop this because whoever you need to slow is always in melee. You will still have Wing Clip Icon Wing Clip, which is actually a longer duration slow anyway
  • Kodo Tranquilizer Icon Kodo Tranquilizer is good in almost all 3v3 scenarios but is interchangeable in 2v2 or certain matchups where you do not expect the enemy team to stack at all
  • Scout's Instincts Icon Scout's Instincts if you need mobility, this can help. A target slowed by Concussive Shot Icon Concussive Shot cannot catch you with this talent. It can also be combined with Hunting Pack Icon Hunting Pack, Moment of Opportunity Icon Moment of Opportunity and Born To Be Wild Icon Born To Be Wild
  • Bursting Shot Icon Bursting Shot is occasionally good if you really don't need Scatter Shot Icon Scatter Shot, but these scenarios are rare
  • Binding Shackles Icon Binding Shackles is an optional "nice to have" talent, which you can replace if there's something better for a situation
  • Serrated Tips Icon Serrated Tips can be good if you have a decent amount of Crit rating on your gear
  • Emergency Salve Icon Emergency Salve is very good (into Assassination Rogues), decent into Shadow Priests to remove Devouring Plague and makes Subtlety and Outlaw Rogues easier to kite.
  • Misdirection Icon Misdirection is required to play Interlope Icon Interlope, which is a powerful PvP talent into casters, although you should be aware of the 20 yard range requirement, and if you are casting Interlope Icon Interlope on your pet, make sure you do it while within that range

Be sure to make use of the 'Copy Export String' button to import the best build directly your game!

3.

PvP Talents for Survival Hunters

You can choose 3 of the following PvP talents. Each of them has its uses, but some are better for certain strategies and matchups than others.

3.1.

Mandatory PvP Talents for Survival Hunters

3.1.1.

Survival Tactics Icon Survival Tactics

Survival Tactics Icon Survival Tactics is the best overall PvP Talent. It turns Feign Death Icon Feign Death into your best defensive ability by negating damage for two seconds. This talent is very powerful into burst specializations when timed correctly.

When facing matchups where you are guaranteed not to be attacked, there are occasionally better options, but it is safer just always to play this talent.

3.2.

Powerful PvP Talents for Survival Hunters

3.2.1.

Chimaeral Sting Icon Chimaeral Sting

Chimaeral Sting Icon Chimaeral Sting is a versatile ability that can be used in many ways, for example:

  • To silence an enemy healer while bursting their partner (note that it does damage on application, and the silence only applies after 3 seconds, so you cannot Chimaeral Sting Icon Chimaeral Sting during or immediately after a trap)
  • To silence a healer before swapping to them (particularly good against priests as they cannot use Pain Suppression Icon Pain Suppression when silenced, when they would been able to if you swapped with Intimidation Icon Intimidation)
  • To peel a DPS on their go (for example, use Chimaeral Sting Icon Chimaeral Sting on a Mage when they cast Dragon's Breath Icon Dragon's Breath; they will still be able to Polymorph Icon Polymorph your healer, but will be silenced immediately afterward and not be able to capitalize on the Polymorph, or cancel a Shaman's Lightning Lasso Icon Lightning Lasso when you know it is coming)
  • To cancel a Restoration Druid's Tranquility Icon Tranquility by casting Chimaeral Sting Icon Chimaeral Sting before they use it
  • To deny a healer's trinket by casting Chimaeral Sting Icon Chimaeral Sting when they are stunned (when they trinket the stun, they are instantly silenced)
  • To apply a powerful slow to a melee DPS when you have no other options
3.2.2.

Sticky Tar Bomb Icon Sticky Tar Bomb

Sticky Tar Bomb Icon Sticky Tar Bomb is another powerful crowd control for melee DPS but is more versatile than Tracker's Net Icon Tracker's Net. Use this into any melee that requires a weapon (or Marksmanship/Beast Mastery Hunters) to counter their burst abilities.You can also use this ability to stop an Arms Warrior from being able to parry attacks during Die by the Sword Icon Die by the Sword or to stop a Windwalker monk from being able to use Fists of Fury Icon Fists of Fury during Serenity Icon Serenity.

3.2.3.

Mending Bandage Icon Mending Bandage

Mending Bandage Icon Mending Bandage is a powerful talent specifically into Feral Druids and Assassination Rogues. Use this to dispel bleeds and poisons from your party when they are stunned, or use it on yourself when you have high bleeds on yourself and are not stunned. Particular effects you will want to remove are Deathmark Icon Deathmark and Feral Frenzy Icon Feral Frenzy.

3.2.4.

Diamond Ice Icon Diamond Ice

Diamond Ice Icon Diamond Ice makes your Freezing Trap Icon Freezing Trap undispellable but reduces the duration and makes the target immune to all spells while active. This is useful not only because Survival has a lot of cleave built into the rotation that can make trapping awkward, but also:

  • Against Shadow Priests, Demon Hunters, and Affliction/Destruction Warlocks that are otherwise able to dispel your Freezing Trap Icon Freezing Trap
  • To crowd control DPS players without the healer being able to dispel the trap
  • To keep a target at low health (you can trap a target at low health and swap to another enemy, and their healer will not be able to recover the target's health during the trap). This is a strategy that is particularly effective in 2v2 arena
3.2.5.

Interlope Icon Interlope

Interlope Icon Interlope is powerful into casters and hunters. You can Interlope Icon Interlope your healer when they are stunned, to eat an enemy Hunter's Freezing Trap Icon Freezing Trap or use it on yourself/your team to absorb spell casts. The pet positioning requirement of this spell can make it awkward to use, but when used properly, it is a very powerful defensive talent. (Remember that you need to talent into Misdirection Icon Misdirection to use this!)

3.2.6.

Hunting Pack Icon Hunting Pack

Hunting Pack Icon Hunting Pack is a mobility talent that vastly reduces the cooldown of Aspect of the Cheetah Icon Aspect of the Cheetah and applies its buff to your teammates but requires your teammates to be within 15 yards. There are better talents available to you in most cases, but this is occasionally worth taking if none of the above talents feel useful.

3.3.

Niche or rarely used PvP Talents for Survival Hunters

3.3.1.

Tracker's Net Icon Tracker's Net

Tracker's Net Icon Tracker's Net is a situationally powerful crowd control on melee DPS. Use this when there is a melee on the other team that you do not intend to kill (as any damage over time effect will break the root) that doesn't have many root-breaking abilities available.

3.3.2.

Wild Kingdom Icon Wild Kingdom

Wild Kingdom Icon Wild Kingdom will help you keep your pet alive. With proper positioning of your pet and using Mend Pet Icon Mend Pet and Exhilaration Icon Exhilaration properly, your pet should not die often. Remember that if your team already has a Mortal Strike Icon Mortal Strike effect, you can use a Mechanical family pet, which will be significantly more tanky than a regular pet anyway.

4.

Changelog

  • 31 Oct. 2024: Updated talent builds as Deathblow fixed.
  • 24 Oct. 2024: Updated talent builds as Deathblow bugged.
  • 21 Oct. 2024: Updated for 11.0.5 rework.
  • 11 Oct. 2024: Rearranged PvP talent priority.
  • 08 Oct. 2024: Updated talent builds.
  • 09 Sep. 2024: Reviewed for The War Within Season 1.
  • 21 Aug. 2024: Updated for The War Within Launch.
  • 23 Jul. 2024: Updated for The War Within pre-patch.
  • 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
  • 22 Apr. 2024: Added Season 4 meta talent builds.
  • 22 Apr. 2024: Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 4.
  • 23 Mar. 2024: Guide re-written.
  • 15 Jan. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.5.
  • 06 Nov. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.2
  • 04 Sep. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.1.7
  • 11 Jul. 2023: Updated the Talent Build.
  • 09 May 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.1.
  • 30 Jan. 2023: Updated the recommended talent build.
  • 11 Dec. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight Season 1.
  • 22 Nov. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight pre-patch.
  • 29 Jul. 2022: Reviewed and updated for Shadowlands Season 4.
  • 31 May 2022: Reviewed for Patch 9.2.5.
  • 22 Feb. 2022: Updated the recommended talents.
  • 10 Nov. 2021: Updated Tier 6 Regular Talent.
    • Updated PvP Talents.
  • 03 Jul. 2021: Updated PvP Talents.
  • 30 Mar. 2021: No updates needed for Patch 9.0.5.
  • 16 Oct. 2020: Updated Talent Table.
    • Updated Tiers 3 and 4 Regular Talents.
    • Updated PvP Talents.
  • 09 Sep. 2020: Updated Pet Talents.
  • 20 Feb. 2020: Updated PvP Talents.
  • 28 Jan. 2020: Page added.
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